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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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Angry AHHRRRRRRRRRRG!!! No Spark!

This isn't the lounge, so I'll save you most of the bitching.

After pooring $500 into this POS project, it doesn't have any spark. The first time I ever tried to turn the car over, it started up just fine, until I released the clutch and it died in nutral. Couldn't start it back up after that, thought ok, I just flooded it. Two months later after I get it all put together, now it has no spark. WTF would cause this? Oh and now some wire out of no where is disconnected and I can find where the hell it goes.

The wire is tapped to the green temp wire and has an fat orange coating around it and the brittle faded white end that has a wire going around it to support a clamp?. Anyone have any clues?

This sucks so bad, its like a $1500 money pit.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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The EGI and Engine fuse are fine.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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Anyone wanna sell me a used coil pack?
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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I got some coils on my parts car. Shoot me an IM or PM.

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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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You're not getting many replies because your description isn't very good. Maybe tell us what you did, what's wrong, what you've tested, what car you've got, what you've replaced, and we could maybe do a bit more for you.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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First question - have you tested the coils as per the FSM?
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 07:21 PM
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invest in a ecu code reader or make one.....I think its on limp mode
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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its an 87 Turbo 2. If it was in limp mode, I'd get spark. I've tested all the coils and none work. They get power to them, but do not spark. I don't know how both could go out at the same time.

Why would the car die in neutral when I released the clutch?

I've checked all the fuses, gone throught the FSM, used a multimeter on the wires. I think the engine is majorly flooded by now. (Tried to start many times)

The thing is ghetto wired, I think the previous owner replaced the engine.

It sucks, the more I get into it, the more parts I need, like the thing that sits next to the intercooler that the two wires and the two hoses plug into, and my turbo to intercooler elbow has a hole in it. I'm sick of puting money into a bucket. If the coil/ignitor packs don't work I'm just going to sell it.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by walken
It sucks, the more I get into it, the more parts I need, like the thing that sits next to the intercooler that the two wires and the two hoses plug into, and my turbo to intercooler elbow has a hole in it. I'm sick of puting money into a bucket. If the coil/ignitor packs don't work I'm just going to sell it.
Did you test the coils like the FSM says? Sure your CAS is good & the wiring for it? And also, if you have a hole in your intake elbow, you're going to have one hell of a vac leak. And how do you know it doesn't spark? Just a plug on a bolt?
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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Limp mode was the wrong term I am sorry...when I ment limp mode..I didn't mean the ECU but more like gay mode
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by ERAUMAZDA
Limp mode was the wrong term I am sorry...when I ment limp mode..I didn't mean the ECU but more like gay mode
What in gods name are you trying to say?
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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Yeah, I put a screw driver in the plug wire and tried to start the car, I get a helluva shock on my N/A when I do this
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:25 PM
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the CAS is getting electricity, I don't know much about it or how to set the timing.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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Have someone crank the car while you a pull a boot off a coil (like L1.) Don't lift it more than an inch or two from the coil (although I did this a few weekends ago and my hand got zapped when it was over a foot away from the exposed coil. ) You should hear a lot of crackling.

I find it hard to believe that you have 2 dead coil on the same car. Not calling you a liar or anything like that, but just wondering if your test methods have been effective/conclusive... Just want to help you get the car running.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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don't know about the no spark thing, but being flooded won't help, so take out the spark plugs and the EGI fuse and crank it a couple times for ~10secs
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by $150FC
don't know about the no spark thing, but being flooded won't help, so take out the spark plugs and the EGI fuse and crank it a couple times for ~10secs

Uh, if I may...


Pull the two EGI fuses, pull all of the spark plugs, crank for a 10 count, then wait 20 seconds, then crank for another 10 count. Then you won't pound on your starter too much.

Remember to take the plugs and put a lighter or a torch to them before re-installing them. You want them to be free of gasoline.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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I checked the voltage on the cas and it was like .9 on all wires. I'll upload some pics of the disgraceful wiring. (I did not wire any of this)
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by SonicRaT
What in gods name are you trying to say?

I don't know.....
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:43 PM
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Here is the cas wiring


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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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I have no clue where this wire goes


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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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Walken, first check your spark plugs. Pull them out and check them and make sure the boots are clean and plugged in the right order.


The spark system only consist of the switch, cas, the two coils, and spark plugs.

The only thing the clutch has to do with the ignition system is the switch that prevents you from cranking when the clutch is not depressed.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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is your alternator connected??
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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It'll crank w/o the clutch
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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are your coils grounded and connected properly
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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Are those bare metal crimps on your CAS!?
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