Aftermarket intake manifolds and vaccume/boost sources
#27
Originally posted by Bebesito21
I want to get that intake manifold setup too. I want it with the AN fittings on the fuel rail and etc. Let us know how it feels on the car and your hp gains....
I want to get that intake manifold setup too. I want it with the AN fittings on the fuel rail and etc. Let us know how it feels on the car and your hp gains....
Santiago
Oh and the anodised (sp?) horn/stack peices will not be used because the plenum that I plan to use replaces them. If I wanted bling bling i'd go buy an SUV and get my teeth cap'd in gold and silver.
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IMO that manifold is a waste of money considering the power target you've previously stated. That money would've bought you the turbo you need to reach that goal (with change probably) while still using the stock manifold. I've read your previous posts on this manifold, so no mind reading is required.
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What hybrid turbo gets you 400hp? I haven't seen that one yet. The highest one that I saw was 350hp or so. ANd regardless of what you've read you are only assuming I did it for "bling" but you have nowhere near the right idea of why I clicked the buy button on the auction.
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Who mentioned a hybrid?
And you don't need to get all testy. I know you're not doing this just for looks; I'm just teasing you a bit. But I'm pretty sure your reasons aren't completely engineering-based either. If my thinking is so far off base, why don't you enlighten me?
And you don't need to get all testy. I know you're not doing this just for looks; I'm just teasing you a bit. But I'm pretty sure your reasons aren't completely engineering-based either. If my thinking is so far off base, why don't you enlighten me?
#31
Well I wasn't aware of any turbo that bolted to the stock manifold so I "assumed" <dumbass mistake hint hint That you meant a hybrid turbo.
But you got my attention what turbo are you refering to?
Santiago
PS- The secondary reason I bought the intake setup is because I like to be different. Most have the stock intake so I wanted to set myself apart. If you want to call that "bling" then you got me. And I get all testy because I am like that.
But you got my attention what turbo are you refering to?
Santiago
PS- The secondary reason I bought the intake setup is because I like to be different. Most have the stock intake so I wanted to set myself apart. If you want to call that "bling" then you got me. And I get all testy because I am like that.
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Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
What hybrid turbo gets you 400hp? I haven't seen that one yet. The highest one that I saw was 350hp or so. ANd regardless of what you've read you are only assuming I did it for "bling" but you have nowhere near the right idea of why I clicked the buy button on the auction.
What hybrid turbo gets you 400hp? I haven't seen that one yet. The highest one that I saw was 350hp or so. ANd regardless of what you've read you are only assuming I did it for "bling" but you have nowhere near the right idea of why I clicked the buy button on the auction.
Not trying to be confrontational, but NZ pretty much said what I was going to... can't see the need for this power level that you've previously stated... unless you've changed your mind.
That and the fact that most all the companies that I've spoken to about this sort of design actually talked me out of it saying that it would hamper low end and that the big gains on the top end were only see at high (like 30psi) boost. I tend to listen when shop tells me not to buy their product.
That's cool if you wanted it for looks... just curious.
-Chris
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Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
Well I wasn't aware of any turbo that bolted to the stock manifold so I "assumed" <dumbass mistake hint hint That you meant a hybrid turbo.
Well I wasn't aware of any turbo that bolted to the stock manifold so I "assumed" <dumbass mistake hint hint That you meant a hybrid turbo.
But you got my attention what turbo are you refering to?
The secondary reason I bought the intake setup is because I like to be different.
Originally posted by carx7
...most all the companies that I've spoken to about this sort of design actually talked me out of it saying that it would hamper low end and that the big gains on the top end were only see at high (like 30psi) boost.
...most all the companies that I've spoken to about this sort of design actually talked me out of it saying that it would hamper low end and that the big gains on the top end were only see at high (like 30psi) boost.
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haha, we all posted at the same time!
I have may answer I think... guess you'll have to let us know what you think.
I've been contemplating something like this for a while... but I'll want to do dyno comparison with my current setup... and I just don't have teh $$$'s right now.
I have may answer I think... guess you'll have to let us know what you think.
I've been contemplating something like this for a while... but I'll want to do dyno comparison with my current setup... and I just don't have teh $$$'s right now.
#36
Like I already said my secondary reason is for individuality and to separate my car from others like it. But the main reason I wanted it was to see for myself what its "cracked up to be" I don't like just accepting things. Thats why I tested my stock intake. Thats why I logged the temps for my CAI. Thats why! I like finding out for myself. This car, My TII, is not about "worth it" or "how much" or words like "budget". I set a goal and I will reach it eventually. I plan to learn on the way. After I finish with my goal I may set a higher one who knows I might want to take on Soul Assasin's car(his HP anyways) It could go in any direction. The only limits to my project is the rate at which I can put more money and parts into the build and how well I can learn how to do things like tunning and other high level tasks which I have never done before.
I do not know if that made any sense or if thats a good enough reason or excuse if you will for buying this intake but the thing is payed for. Even if I made the wrong choice I have to live with it for now. But I hope I didn't make the wrong choice.
Santiago
carx7 btw your car is killer!
I do not know if that made any sense or if thats a good enough reason or excuse if you will for buying this intake but the thing is payed for. Even if I made the wrong choice I have to live with it for now. But I hope I didn't make the wrong choice.
Santiago
carx7 btw your car is killer!
#37
Originally posted by NZConvertible
I was talking about the stock intake manifold, that being the thread topic and all.
I wasn't referring to one turbo in particular, just that you'll need to spend another big bunch of money to get a turbo capable of supporting 400hp. A big turbo will be necessary to reach that goal, but a different intake manifold will not.
That's what people say about superchargers too...
Exactly.
I was talking about the stock intake manifold, that being the thread topic and all.
I wasn't referring to one turbo in particular, just that you'll need to spend another big bunch of money to get a turbo capable of supporting 400hp. A big turbo will be necessary to reach that goal, but a different intake manifold will not.
That's what people say about superchargers too...
Exactly.
Santiago
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BDC is incharge of that department. I will have him do the largest street port he can and I will be doing the rebuild myself. < one of the things I have to learn.
A lot of people tell me to go with a bridge but I seriously don't want to tackle that kind of tunning.
A lot of people tell me to go with a bridge but I seriously don't want to tackle that kind of tunning.
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Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
BDC is incharge of that department. I will have him do the largest street port he can and I will be doing the rebuild myself. < one of the things I have to learn.
A lot of people tell me to go with a bridge but I seriously don't want to tackle that kind of tunning.
BDC is incharge of that department. I will have him do the largest street port he can and I will be doing the rebuild myself. < one of the things I have to learn.
A lot of people tell me to go with a bridge but I seriously don't want to tackle that kind of tunning.
I'd bet you'd see more gains using a brideport.. But if a street port is your thang then thats cool.
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You have bought that intake, have dreams of 400 RWHP, yet can't install a vacuum nipple? Uh huh...
(I actually had a nice post, but the forum lagged and ruined it...hence the bad mood)
(I actually had a nice post, but the forum lagged and ruined it...hence the bad mood)
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Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
I do not know if that made any sense or if thats a good enough reason or excuse if you will for buying this intake but the thing is payed for. Even if I made the wrong choice I have to live with it for now. But I hope I didn't make the wrong choice.
Santiago
carx7 btw your car is killer!
I do not know if that made any sense or if thats a good enough reason or excuse if you will for buying this intake but the thing is payed for. Even if I made the wrong choice I have to live with it for now. But I hope I didn't make the wrong choice.
Santiago
carx7 btw your car is killer!
That's exactly why I didn't put an FD manifold on my car and kept the stock S5 (till I get an intake manifold that matches my exhaust manifold anway ) There's a lot of hype but no proof (meaning dyno sheet not hear-say) of extra power.
Anyway, good luck with the car. Projects are always fun.
-Chris
Thanks for the compliment.
#43
Originally posted by Aaron Cake
You have bought that intake, have dreams of 400 RWHP, yet can't install a vacuum nipple? Uh huh...
(I actually had a nice post, but the forum lagged and ruined it...hence the bad mood)
You have bought that intake, have dreams of 400 RWHP, yet can't install a vacuum nipple? Uh huh...
(I actually had a nice post, but the forum lagged and ruined it...hence the bad mood)
Some people that own Lambo's and Ferraris don't know how to change their oil. Whats your point? Atleast I asked about how to achieve what I KNOW is needed for the car to work properly. I never had to tap anything before so I didn't bother learning something that was not needed. Just like someone that wants to be a diplomat needs to know different languages but that doesn't mean the guy or girl is born with the knowledge and skill to accomplish his/her task.
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Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
...the main reason I wanted it was to see for myself what its "cracked up to be" I don't like just accepting things. Thats why I tested my stock intake. Thats why I logged the temps for my CAI. Thats why!
...the main reason I wanted it was to see for myself what its "cracked up to be" I don't like just accepting things. Thats why I tested my stock intake. Thats why I logged the temps for my CAI. Thats why!
Who said I didn't know I needed a big turbo?
It will facilitate power gains.
I don't think you've made a mistake (it will work fine I'm sure), I just think you've made an unwise economic decision. For your initial power goal, the cost and downsides outweigh the benefits. Those long runners on the stock manifold are much better for low-end torque, and with a big turbo on a little engine in a (relatively) heavy street-driven car, that's important. I wouldn't want to sacrifice that until the stock manifold actually causes a significant restriction.
And I'd love to know where a 20yo student gets the money for all this. When I was at uni slapping a Weber on my '78 Corolla was a financial stretch...
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I really do think that you'd need some pretty agressive porting to take full advantage of a shoter manifold like this... A(agressive) brideported N/A motor would definatly see gains from using a setup like this as compared to a stocker manifold (either N/A or a Turbo manifold), that is for sure, however I'm not so sure about turbo motors.. don't have enough experience with these beats yet..
Hmm... but seeing pics of dual throat manifold like that make me dream about making a telescopic manifold... (read: r26b style..)
Pitty you couldn't really make one that handled boost easily.. so not very relevant to this discussion i guess.
ps- Aaron Cake, when are we going to see a progress report on your brideport build up? I'm quite interested..
Hmm... but seeing pics of dual throat manifold like that make me dream about making a telescopic manifold... (read: r26b style..)
Pitty you couldn't really make one that handled boost easily.. so not very relevant to this discussion i guess.
ps- Aaron Cake, when are we going to see a progress report on your brideport build up? I'm quite interested..
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Jesus, $565! $180 total I can see doing it for experimentation, differentiation, looks, whatever, but not for $565. Don't get me wrong it's really cool.
I think Mr. Cake's point was not about actually having a car with 400hp but your ability to make your car have 400hp.
I think Mr. Cake's point was not about actually having a car with 400hp but your ability to make your car have 400hp.
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And I'd love to know where a 20yo student gets the money for all this. When I was at uni slapping a Weber on my '78 Corolla was a financial stretch... [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm 19 I turn 20 in July.
And where do I get the money for it? Well I have a job don't I? I also pay taxes and get grants/scholarships for my studies. Just because I act stupid on the forum doesn't mean I am low on brain power.
And I'd love to know where a 20yo student gets the money for all this. When I was at uni slapping a Weber on my '78 Corolla was a financial stretch... [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm 19 I turn 20 in July.
And where do I get the money for it? Well I have a job don't I? I also pay taxes and get grants/scholarships for my studies. Just because I act stupid on the forum doesn't mean I am low on brain power.
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Jesus, $565! $180 total I can see doing it for experimentation, differentiation, looks, whatever, but not for $565. Don't get me wrong it's really cool.
I think Mr. Cake's point was not about actually having a car with 400hp but your ability to make your car have 400hp.
Jesus, $565! $180 total I can see doing it for experimentation, differentiation, looks, whatever, but not for $565. Don't get me wrong it's really cool.
I think Mr. Cake's point was not about actually having a car with 400hp but your ability to make your car have 400hp.
Its all about credit and debt lol!
And I could care less what people beleive about me. I know I act stupid and I am an ******* all the time without warrant. But that doesn't mean I am not able to build a car. I don't need an engineering degree nor do I need to know everything that mr. cake knows or whoever. If I really wanted to get 400hp I have the list and I could have been half way there based on other people's setups. But I want to try out my own things I don't need to be put down by mr. canada. I just think he has a beef with me but I really could care less. Anyhow they are payed for all I have to do is wait for mr. postman to deliver them and I can start my handy work at taping for those vac nipples. Those that helped me thanks! I hope I can help you all in return. Those that didn't well I really don't want to start anything because I am at a disadvantage.
Santiago
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Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
....I act stupid and I am an ******* all the time without warrant. But that doesn't mean I am not able to build a car......
Santiago
....I act stupid and I am an ******* all the time without warrant. But that doesn't mean I am not able to build a car......
Santiago
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