Hey all,

I'm trying to find _THE_ definitive shopping list of fuel component replacement parts. Perhaps we can make it an official sticky later. I searched the forums for aftermarket fuel rails and the FPD issue. I also found the 2 most mentioned sites that offer aftermarket fuel rails for sale.

Incidently, 1 of the sites, k2rd, is broke. No fuel rails are offered for sale. When you go to their site, the only product mentioned is haltech. Their main page banner picture is broke too. =(

I looked at KGparts and they offer a lot of FD stuff. Keith emailed me back and said that most parts are available for the FC and the price difference is roughly 10-15$. I'm unsure of his fuel "kits" because after reading all the descriptions, I feel that what I'm looking for is part of kit X but part of kit Y. Most of his kits are "upgrades" while I'm just looking for stock replacements, so I'm not really sure.

I'm personally not looking for a super high performance setup but a complete replacement of the old, nasty and tired stock parts as the first "basic" step. If the new parts happen to have the ability to go beyond stock settings, then that's fine. That gives me a headstart on fuel upgrades but for the time being, stock is where I want to be at. Maybe I'll send Keith another email and see if he can make a "Fc Basic Replacement Package" for us ...maybe even a group buy. Specifically, everything from the fuel filter fowards...

- aftermarket primary rail with fpd fix and with the use stock injectors
- aftermarket secondary rail with the use of stock injectors
- an fittings? (how many, which types)
- ss braided lines? (how many pieces and at what lengths)
- fuel pressure gauge (good to know, for diagnostics purposes)
- fpr (absolutely necessary for stock setup? or is this an "add-on")
- more? (you fill in here)

Thanks for the help.

 

and what huge ports and mods are you running that needs such a badass fuel setup??, and why would you upgrade fuel rails and keep stock injectors. at least go the same flow injectors, but after miarket, like denso. is there anything reall wrong with the fc's fuel setup for stock. honestly i didnt think so. i did a lot of fuel **** when i bolted my turbo onto my 6port N/A though. that included a walboro pump, 2 550cc primaries, high imp, 2 720cc secondary, low imp....thats about it, just to get more fuel to my mods...no aftermarket rails ar anything like that.

edit: when my PD screw came out a while ago, i ended up tightening it back in all the way, and sealing it up with jb weld, basically eliminating it if it is broken or will ever break, but will prevent leaks. dunno if this was the RIGHT thing to do, but havent had any problems in the past 6 months.

 

My setup consists of -6 AN Aeroquip socketless fittings from the fuel filter to the secondary rail. I had aluminum AN fittings welded to the ends of the stock rails by a local shop. I'm running 550cc primaries and Marren 1000cc secondaries. There's also a Marren FPD in there and the stock FPR handles the return side.






-John

 

That sounds scary dude. You sure you wanna risk your whole car bursting into flames because of a $120 part? I'm not trying to pick on you but I don't understand why people do things like this. It's just not worth it in my opinion. A banjo bolt from Earls costs less than $10 from Summit and it will never leak. I love JB weld, but I wouldn't trust it on fuel components.
-John

 

knowing what size AN Fittings and size hose to use for the Fuel Rails would be cool

 

All my stuff is -6AN as I said in my first post. The weld on fittings are overkill for the S4 rails cause you can buy adapters that will thread in. Part #'s are on RETed's site.......http://www.fc3spro.com/TECH/MODS/FUEL/fsystem.htm. That list is for a full parallel fuel rail setup but you get the idea.
-John

 

There's nothing wrong with the stock fuel rails. They'll support more than double a stock Turbo's power.

For a street car this stuff is pure bling. People will tell you braided hoses and AN fittings are much more reliable than the stock stuff, but the fact is quality rubber EFI hose and decent screw clamps work fine and will last for ages.

Totally unnecessary with the stock or mild upgrade pumps.

 

Hey all,

I really appreciate you all for responding. Any other tidbits you can think of, just keep them coming.

Thanks.

 

Hmmm...one word of warning...
If you throw a belt or the fan happens to fall apart, look out PD!
Is there another location you could put that thing?
A leaking PD is not too safe!


-Ted

 

is actully fine for use and fuel wont hurt it. besides. i didnt like, seal the hole with JB, i screwed the screw in, and jbwelded over the top of that, so no jb weld touches fuel, just holds the screw in tight.

 

JB Weld'ing over the top of the PD is not a very smart thing to do.
Shoot, I thought I UL'd my revised page on the whole PD thing, but it looks like I haven't.
I'll do it when I get home this morning in a couple hours...


-Ted

 

Fixed...

http://fc3spro.com/TECH/FAQ/pd.html

Now can you figure out why it's bad to JB Weld over the screw???


-Ted

 

then why is putting a banjo bolt in its place a good idea???


edit: badass page btw

 

Ted - Good looking out....I'll consider moving it if it starts to worry me, but that picture isn't the greatest. The PD is actually very very close to being flush with the front of the waterpump housing. It would take a combination of a catastrophic failure and extremely bad luck to damage it, but it I will keep an eye on it.

k-rok - I consider a banjo bolt an "acceptable" idea only, based on the fact that at or near STOCK power levels it doesn't seem to cause any problems from my own and other peoples experiences. Teds site has a lot of great info on the PD and I'm glad those animated GIF's are back up. They make it sooo easy to see how these things work so everyone can understand. I run a FPD now because of my big-ish secondaries and the fact that I'm running a Microtech now.

-John