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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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AFM question

who runs there AFM after the turbo? what differences did you notice.. thanks
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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I tried it after the intercooler (FM). Mild increase in turbo noise and slight decrease in lag.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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When modifying the intake for FMIC it seems to me like passing compressed & intercooled air through the AFM would be more efficient:
1) More air volume for the same pressure drop.
2) No wasted fuel during closed throttle blow-off.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by SureShot
When modifying the intake for FMIC it seems to me like passing compressed & intercooled air through the AFM would be more efficient:
1) More air volume for the same pressure drop.
2) No wasted fuel during closed throttle blow-off.
1) Volumetric restrictions don't care where they are placed, they still restrict; top end power will be the same.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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You definately want to put it AFTER the FMIC... i don't think the AFM is going to like the 2-300 degree temps its going to see if it's inline BEFORE the IC.

the biggest difference i noted was when i ditched the thing all together. (haltech)
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by scathcart
1) Volumetric restrictions don't care where they are placed, they still restrict; top end power will be the same.
At ~8PSI you are pushing 50% more volume across approximately the same pressure drop = less relative loss.
This effect diminishes at higher pressures, but up to 1 Bar it's fairly linear.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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You definately want to put it AFTER the FMIC... i don't think the AFM is going to like the 2-300 degree temps its going to see if it's inline BEFORE the IC.
For sure.. Ref: "compressed & INTERCOOLED"

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the biggest difference i noted was when i ditched the thing all together. (haltech)
Absolutely..
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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Keep in mind that the S4 (and I believe S5 as well) AFMs include temp sensors. Also, it has been debated whether the S4 AFM will stand up to boost pressure in the long-term.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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alright.. well i guess i will be seeing how it holds up after the IC, and report what happens.. thanks for the info..
Dave
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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Q:why would you move it in the first place.
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