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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 07:41 AM
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Adding resistence to the gas pedal?

I don't really like the soft feeling that second gens gas pedals have. After driving for awhile, maybe an hour or so, my foot starts to hurt. You have to kinda hold your foot back from the pedal alot. In my other two 626s you can rest your foot on the pedal sort of. I was thinking about adding a spring to the arm of the pedal. Not behind it but in front so you would be pushing away from the spring. Do you guys think this will work? I can't see why it wouldn't.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:14 AM
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You could always rig a bracket and add throttle return springs. Kinda like I use on my Firebird. You can get an assortment of different springs for cheap. Seems to be alot easier then trying to add springs to the throttle assembly and you can change your spring tension to fit your needs...

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:29 AM
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I'm confused! could you explain a lil more?
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:40 AM
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Its kinda hard without pictures, but in the carburated (sp?) world, especially the classics, you add a throttle return bracket to the intake or any suitable anchor. Then you add these long springs with hooks on each end to this bracket and run them to some part of the throttle arm so it makes the spring pull the arm. This point is usually somewhere in the vicinity of the spot where the throttle cable attaches to the linkage. These springs come in different diameters so you can run one inside the other in order to save space, and change resistance. Most NHRA drag strips wont even let you on the track without a dual return spring. I can get a pic of my 67 Firebird, so you can get the idea, but it would have to wait till later in the day. Realistically, this would only cost you a few bucks. I am trying to remember if there would be any places close to the throttle body that you could attach a bracket. Thats just one way I can think of to increase your resistance without too much hassle..
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:57 AM
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there is the mounting location for the lil bracket that holds the throtle cable! I'm starting to see what you're talking about. I'll just mess around with it; it can't be very hard to rig up a spring to add a lil resistence. my only concern is something getting jammed, and sticking the throtle in the open position.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 09:01 AM
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I never really thought about it until you mentioned it, but the FC's throttle is a bit soft. It always bothered me but I always accepted it.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 09:04 AM
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My car does not have a huge amount of power, but it has enough that moving your foot a half an inch could get you into trouble. Just a lil more "fight" is what I'm lookin for.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 09:07 AM
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My car does not have a huge amount of power, but it has enough that moving your foot a half an inch could get you into trouble. Just a lil more "fight" is what I'm lookin for.
I've never had a problem with controlling the car accurately with the throttle. It's just the pain in my foot when I'm not going fast enough to use the cruise control, but still have to maintain a constant speed.

The spring idea sounds like a good one.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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The spring shouldnt interfere with the throttle cable, it runs opposite direction of the cable in order to impart more pull against the throttle linkage...WORD OF CAUTION:

Adding throttle return springs to one side of the throttle linkage MAY cause unbalanced loads on the shaft that holds the butterfly valves. The dashpot should alleviate this problem. If your dashpot is disabled like mine, over a period of several years this could POTENTIALLY accelerate wear on your throttle assembly, throttle stops...Etc.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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How about putting a spring on the exposed section of the throtle cable, right befor it conects to the throtle linkage on the throtle body? A small spring with a high spring rate; you could mount a stopper (kinda like a fishing "sinker") on the cable; then put another stopper right at the point where the cable goes into the cord surrounding it. Maybe an inch long spring. The spring would have to be preaty short as to not get cought up in the throtle body linkage. Try to imagine it in your head ...
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:21 AM
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:22 AM
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I am having a hard time visualizing that...THe point as I see it, is to impart an opposing force to the throttle. If you anchor a spring to the cable sleeve, and then to the throttle linkage itself, wouldnt that be actually......Okay wait a sec.... IT would be in effect pulling the cable back into the sleeve? Wouldnt that cause the wrong effect? Any spring traveling in the same direction as the cable would not impart any resistance to the throttle itself unless it was on the opposite side of the throttle shaft axis from the trottle cable attach point. Wow...Its WAY too early in the morning for this! Hold on, let me see if I can find a pic so we can visualize this better...
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:27 AM
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:34 AM
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Okay, I see what you are up too...That would work too. I cant see why not, only limitation I can see is the strength of your spring vs. the anchoring power of the stopper on the right. Depends on the amount of resistance you want to add... Damn good idea! Oh...Make sure that your spring travel allows you to open the throttle all the way...Remember as you press the throttle, your spring is gonna compress. If you dont adjust the cable correctly.....Actually now that I think about it, that may limit your ability to achieve WOT. May be something you would want to think about.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:38 AM
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Okay upon review of my previous post...A long enough spring would put the stopper far enough away to avoid that...Now its a matter of how much distance from the end of the sleeve and the linkage. Simplistically speaking I think my idea is better. But your idea would save on engine clutter and would probably look more professional.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:41 AM
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Yeah, that's what I'm worried about. But there is always going to be exposed cable to work with. Maybe not much but some. The cable cord never comes closer than a few inches from the linkage so a small spring shouldn't interfere. Now, finding a spring that small that would create enough resistence is the real tricky part.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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Yeah, I like your idea though!! Maybe something you might want to experiment with and then post your results. I know I would be interested. One more thing I thought...Would this interfere with the Cruise Control? My guess is you dont have it, or it doesnt work so it probably isnt an issue for you.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:50 AM
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No cruise for me. I also have done the throtle body mod, so some of that junk is gone.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:57 AM
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Weird, the throttle in my T2 is perfect. You can press it very lightly and get decent enough response to just drive around and stay out of the boost, and partway through the travel it gets sorta hard to push. If you insist and push harder,it will move, and then your head bangs against the headrest as the car gets moving like a bastard. It's like having two throttles in one, an "I'm behaving myself" throttle and a "boost crazed monster" throttle
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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I gotta do some research on this "trottle body mod"
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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YOu know what problem I am having? My throttle cable keeps popping out of the bracket while I am driving...That ever happen to you??
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