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91 FC not detecting ECU anymore :(

Old May 25, 2016 | 01:40 AM
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You have an EGI fuse in the engine fuse box. One of the White wires comes from this fuse. Measure this White wire as it comes from the fuse box (no key).
okay so put the red lead onto the bottom of that fuse under the box wherever i can that the wire or metal is showing?
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Old May 25, 2016 | 01:45 AM
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okay just did it! there was 2 white wires right next to eachother under the EGI fuse location so i slid it up in there on the white wires and im getting a steady 12 volts with no key
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Old May 25, 2016 | 01:49 AM
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That's the very same wire as the two White wires in the 4 wire relay plug. Pull the EGI fuse which should kill voltage to these White wires. If there is no voltage then you know you measured the correct wire(s).
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Old May 25, 2016 | 01:56 AM
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That's the very same wire as the two White wires in the 4 wire relay plug. Pull the EGI fuse which should kill voltage to these White wires. If there is no voltage then you know you measured the correct wire(s).
okay yup pulled the fuse and i got 0 volts and i left the red lead where it was and plugged the fuse back in and it jumped to 12 bolts so yeah i measured the correct ones
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Old May 25, 2016 | 02:04 AM
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Then it appears you are not measuring the voltage at the relay properly because the White wire(s) measured at the fuse box is the same wires at the relay. Again, measure the White wires in the 4 wire plug w/the plug removed and the Red lead placed inside the top of the plug as opposed to the bottom of the plug (and obviously no key). And nighty night!
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Old May 25, 2016 | 02:09 AM
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Then it appears you are not measuring the voltage at the relay properly because the White wire(s) measured at the fuse box is the same wires at the relay. Again, measure the White wires in the 4 wire plug w/the plug removed and the Red lead placed inside the top of the plug as opposed to the bottom of the plug (and obviously no key). And nighty night!
okay with the plug removed the whites are reading 12 volts! maybe i didnt get the lead set right inside the plug before :p do you know which wire is the + on the ecu harness that plugs into the ecu so I can check that for power also? worth a try

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Old May 25, 2016 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Deane
okay with the plug removed the whites are reading 12 volts! maybe i didnt get the lead set right inside the plug before :p do you know which wire is the + on the ecu harness that plugs into the ecu so I can check that for power also? worth a try
Pin 1B (B/W) w/the key to the on position. And there were close to 35 posts related to the main relay when it should have taken but a few. 35 posts!

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Old May 25, 2016 | 08:36 AM
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Pin 1B (B/W). And there were close to 35 posts related to the main relay when it should have taken but a few. 35 posts!
oops but hey you stuck around and that makes you an awesome guy! anything else you want me to check? what do you think the actual issue is with the car?
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Old May 25, 2016 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Deane
oops but hey you stuck around and that makes you an awesome guy! anything else you want me to check? what do you think the actual issue is with the car?
If I knew I would say so.
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Old May 25, 2016 | 09:06 AM
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If I knew I would say so.
hmm the plug to the ecu is reading 12 volts... but the car isn't picking it up maybe it's got a friend resistor I'm gonna take it back out and give it a long look
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Old May 25, 2016 | 09:08 AM
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Try a different ECU.

Checked ECU ground?
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Old May 25, 2016 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuhnortoner
Try a different ECU.

Checked ECU ground?
no other ecu to use as of right now :/ and the ground is right next to where the ecu bolts in right? 6 inch or so black wire?
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Old May 25, 2016 | 09:18 AM
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One of the grounds is pin 3C. The wire is Black and it's found in the largest of the 3 ECU plugs. W/key to on it should read very close to 0 volts. Place the Black meter lead to one of the ECU's mounting bolts for a ground source (and of course the Red meter lead goes to pin 3C, but you knew that already_. If it reads like 12 volts then that is a problem.
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Old May 25, 2016 | 09:24 AM
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heres a video of inside the ecu : Upload and Share Videos - Sendvid
might be hard to distinguish stuff but alot of the resistors and crap are corroded to ****
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Old May 25, 2016 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by satch
One of the grounds is pin 3C. The wire is Black and it's found in the largest of the 3 ECU plugs. W/key to on it should read very close to 0 volts. Place the Black meter lead to one of the ECU's mounting bolts for a ground source (and of course the Red meter lead goes to pin 3C, but you knew that already_. If it reads like 12 volts then that is a problem.
okay ill go test that right now
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Old May 25, 2016 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by satch
One of the grounds is pin 3C. The wire is Black and it's found in the largest of the 3 ECU plugs. W/key to on it should read very close to 0 volts. Place the Black meter lead to one of the ECU's mounting bolts for a ground source (and of course the Red meter lead goes to pin 3C, but you knew that already_. If it reads like 12 volts then that is a problem.
okay i just tested the ground pin and it read 0 volts! i tested all other black ones in there also and got 0...i dont think i have a wiring issue i think my ecu is just toasted lol its gonna be a B*tch to find another ecu
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Old May 25, 2016 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Deane
okay i just tested the ground pin and it read 0 volts! i tested all other black ones in there also and got 0...i dont think i have a wiring issue i think my ecu is just toasted lol its gonna be a B*tch to find another ecu
They are rather common just be patient. You could also speed up the process by looking through the classifieds for those selling what you need.

Another thing to check at the ECU would require an LED light. Take one of its two wires and shove it into the back of pin 3W (largest ECU plug, Light Green wire). The other LED wire goes to pin 1B (B/W wire) and w/key to start the light should flicker which indicates the ECU is trying to fire the front primary injector.

And w/key to start the tach needle should bump a little which indicates the trailing coil is attempting to fire.
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Old May 25, 2016 | 10:01 AM
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They are rather common just be patient. You could also speed up the process by looking through the classifieds for those selling what you need.

Another thing to check at the ECU would require an LED light. Take one of its two wires and shove it into the back of pin 3W (largest ECU plug, Light Green wire). The other LED wire goes to pin 1B (B/W wire) and w/key to start the light should flicker which indicates the ECU is trying to fire the front primary injector.

And w/key to start the tach needle should bump a little which indicates the trailing coil is attempting to fire.
can i make my own little light for that? how woould i test the ecu with the plugs in?
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Old May 25, 2016 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Deane
can i make my own little light for that?
No, nope, negative,nyet!

And you'll have to solve the water leak issue in the car obviously.

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Old May 25, 2016 | 10:36 AM
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No, nope, negative,nyet!

And you'll have to solve the water leak issue in the car obviously.
the water leak was from PO the car was in there front yard for sale WITH THE DAMN TOP DOWN in a quick storm...i sucked like a gallon and a half of water out with a shop vac lol then jacked one side of the car up and got the rest of the water out now the carpets just drying in the sun. my vert top doesnt close all the way though...it beeps and makes noise but doesnt move at all is there a way i can disconnect it from the arms for the motor and manually lock it in place because its like an inch away from being able to lock down with the hinge
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Old May 25, 2016 | 10:51 AM
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the water leak was from PO the car was in there front yard for sale WITH THE DAMN TOP DOWN in a quick storm...i sucked like a gallon and a half of water out with a shop vac lol then jacked one side of the car up and got the rest of the water out now the carpets just drying in the sun. my vert top doesnt close all the way though...it beeps and makes noise but doesnt move at all is there a way i can disconnect it from the arms for the motor and manually lock it in place because its like an inch away from being able to lock down with the hinge

Not familiar w/the top as you'll have to ask someone who owns one for that answer.
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Old May 25, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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I have a ecu for sale... PM me.
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Old May 25, 2016 | 02:46 PM
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Lol.... I would have started this thread with that water damage info...
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Old May 25, 2016 | 02:51 PM
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Lol.... I would have started this thread with that water damage info...
lol i know! i had another thread talking about the water damage and i was talking too Satch the whole time anyways but im just gonna go with it needs a new ECU since the inside is mostly corroded
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