frigidmonkey

how much difference do the 5/6 ports make? I drove my car home today, no 5/6 ports because I had to drive it home with no exhaust. I was wondering because coming off a light, up to about 70, I had it floored, shifting at redline, my gf driving her focus stayed right on me, and she said she wasnt anywhere near flooring it.
Does this sound about right? Would the 5/6 ports make that much difference, or is there something else wrong that I should look for. I mean, running with all ports open, a stock focus zts shouldnt be able to match my acceleration, should it?

d0 Luck

6 ports don't really have good top end power on them compared to 4 ports.

frigidmonkey

what about off the line , up to 70

homebrewer

Don't waste your time trying to fig\ure out what is faster than a vert. I suspect that even a 25cc moped would beat a vert 0 to 30 mph.

The vert's strengths is that it looks good and handles pretty good too.

frigidmonkey

so probalby wasting my time adding performance parts to it?

JTP

I would just swap in a 13BT(turbo motor) and then have the looks of the vert and the ***** of a turbo.... look around, you will find info on it and alot of ppl who have done it.

ViperBart

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... to answer your first question.... the ports atcivate around 3500 rpm and add about 25 hp to the top end

ViperKillerWannabe

Exhaust doesn't affect the aux ports on an S5. They're activated by the airpump instead of exhaust backpressure.

ViperBart

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my mistake

Mordachai

Yeah that's one way to do it, but by the time you've added the hulking TII motor and the tranny and all, you're adding a bunch of weight , not to mention time and costs. You can take the same(or less) money and time and just do the more basic things to your n/a.
There are also a few threads about it.

Here's one that might change your mind on the TII swap!!!!

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/what-i-have-been-doing-gone-back-non-turbo-260972/

There's a bunch of other threads to be found, just search

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ViperDude152

^ how much more weight are you adding? intercooler and turbo? the engine is the same...

dregg100

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^ he would need to put a differant engine in it. it currently has a 13b he needs a 13bt. unless he wants to do a 6 port turbo setup. about weight, correct me if i'm wrong but i think it's like 200 lbs added.

frigidmonkey

so the tube coming off the exhaust isnt for the 5/6 port actuators?

Jager

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Arg, a Turbo engine, transmission, and driveline is heavier because it is a series of stronger components, maybe 125-175lbs. And what you trade off for power is quite big. Going from 160hp to 200hp helps, ontop of that, you add a FCD, intake, exhaust, and a MB controller, you're pushing 220hp-250hp. And that only would cost a few hundred bucks (CS exhaust = 500, custom intake = 50, FCD = build your own, MB controller = ebay for 25.

The first question to anyone looking to make more hp is, how much are you willing to spend?

frigidmonkey

2 grand

ViperKillerWannabe

That's the split air pipe. The air pump blows into that.

jhammons01

Here is the sad point. Without an exhaust you'll be getting MORE low end and a nice power curve throughout. You have the ultimate free flowing exhaust. The next wtep would be to mod the intake somehow. Maybe then you amy be a challenge to those pesky Focai.


I speak from experience as a Focus and a Altima Kicked my verts (with an auto tranny) *** just last night.

frigidmonkey

I can't have that going on. A focus is not that impressive. So, as soon as I fix the exhaust and the radiator I'm going to either sell or trade off the vert. maybe find a hard top FC or who knows, maybe even go back to FB

ultradef

If you're looking for a fast car, why did you buy an N/A? What did you expect from a car that weighs 3000 lbs. and had 160 hp from the factory (and possibly considerably less now depending on mileage/wear). A Focus weighs 2600 lbs. and has 130 hp and is much newer, so yes it may be faster than a stock vert. Verts (and N/A's in general) not known for their straight line speed (in stock form).

frigidmonkey

dude, give me a break, what did I expect? I expected a "sports car" to act like one, not be one of the slowest things on the road. A focus is newer yes, but they are not fast by any means, so it was a surprise that a "sports car" running full throttle had no chance at all.
and why did I buy an N/A... because I found a 90 vert with less than 90 K on it, a perfect top, near perfect interior, near perfect body, NO rust, and needing VERY little work for 200 bucks , seemed like a bit hard to pass up. Now that I know how slow it is, I'll do that little bit of work that it needs and sell it or trade it and get me something faster

ultradef

I think you're confusing "fast" with "fast in a straight line". The FC3C is a sports car and does "act like one"...if you drive it like one. Take your FC and the Focus through some twisties and see who's faster...or go buy a Mustang and drive in a straight line.

7romanstatesmen

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r&t tested the zts, and it hit 60 in 9.3 seconds, which i believe is pretty close to what the vert did when they tested it way back when. a friend of mine has one, and when she drives it, it's pretty fast (relatively speaking, of course). don't worry about it.

KillaKitiie

I raced a zx3 foci and got my *** beat he walked me harder than my friends crx pushing 10lbs!...i do not know what it had but i wonder how much faster it is than a stock zx3.

frigidmonkey

hmm, mustang, I dont really like the style, but dont mind their performance. I'll just keep cleaning up the vert and try to trade it for something lighter, and if I can't find anyone interested, I'll put a 302 in it

jhammons01

Hey, Frigidmonkey, you sound just like that guy that tried to race a top fuel rail dragster at Sears point the other day. All he did was complain.........only you two are opposites!!!

YOU should have the top fuel and let the guy at Sears point have your 7


Note: the guy with the top fuel dragster at Sears Point is completely fictional and was made up to prove a point.