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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 06:44 PM
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'88 FC GXL - Will not start

My '88 FC GXL will not start and I have tried a couple things to see what might be causing the issue, but still haven't found the answer to my problem.
  • There is power to the gauges so it isn't the battery.
  • I have checked the fuel pump and it works fine.
  • Fuel Filter is both receiving and giving fuel.
  • The coils are firing fine with blue sparks.
  • The car will not start even with spraying starting fluid into the throttle body.
  • All fuses are intact.

What else is there for me to try?
Old Oct 27, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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Could be flooded.

Look at the voltage of the Brown/White wire at the TPS w/key to on and read the voltage as it should read 5 volts. If it reads 0 volts that could prevent the car from starting.
Old Oct 27, 2014 | 07:02 PM
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Think it could be flooded?

The last time I drove it, which wasn't really much of a drive, was I had to move cars around on my driveway so that someone could leave so the car did not warm up at all.
Old Oct 27, 2014 | 07:30 PM
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That could flood the engine if it was just fired up for seconds. Blue spark is a weak spark ,though. You might want to remove a plug from each housing, pull the EGI COMP fuse and turn the engine over some to remove any excess fuel in the housings. Or you could pull the circuit opening relay and try to start the car and when it sounds like its catching replug the relay as the engine continues to turn over and see if it will start.
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Some oil in the plug holes help it fire also if its flooded, but its easier pulling the EGI fuse, putting your foot to the floor and roll it over a couple times

When you started it to move it, did evering "sound" normal?
Old Oct 27, 2014 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GW0LF
Think it could be flooded?

The last time I drove it, which wasn't really much of a drive, was I had to move cars around on my driveway so that someone could leave so the car did not warm up at all.
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Do a deflood.
You will note that rotary engines hate a start for 20 seconds(move car)and shut down scenario.,
They tend to leave gas in the engine and it can hinder starting or make the car not want to start at all.
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I did the de-flood procedure and no luck, still will not start.

Spoke with another mechanic and he was saying it could be the timing has slipped if I have never changed the belt.

Is that a possible scenario?
Old Oct 28, 2014 | 11:18 AM
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There is no timing belt involved. If your car was flooded it's not always easy to unflood and expect the car to start. Your compression might be affecting the starting of the car. A slowly spinning starter could also prevent a car from starting. You might do as suggested and add a little bit of oil to each rotor housing to help build compression and do this after deflooding the car. In the three times my car flooded, all due to only letting the car run for just long enough to move the car, it was a true bitch to get started again but you just have to fight through it.
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Some oil in the plug holes help it fire also if its flooded, but its easier pulling the EGI fuse, putting your foot to the floor and roll it over a couple times

When you started it to move it, did evering "sound" normal?
Yeah the last time I moved the car, it cranked right up like normal and didn't appear any different from any other day.

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There is no timing belt involved. If your car was flooded it's not always easy to unflood and expect the car to start. Your compression might be affecting the starting of the car. A slowly spinning starter could also prevent a car from starting. You might do as suggested and add a little bit of oil to each rotor housing to help build compression and do this after deflooding the car. In the three times my car flooded, all due to only letting the car run for just long enough to move the car, it was a true bitch to get started again but you just have to fight through it.
Well how many times should I attempt this de-flooding? I am trying to be careful and not warp the housing by keep attempting to turn it over and over.
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Did you use the oil? And again, Blue spark is a weak spark.
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Don't worry about the housings, be more worried about the work your going to put your battery through

Be silly, try starting it normal, than remove the plugs and look at them, if they are drenched, than you know its flooded, if they are bone dry, compression test it
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Originally Posted by GW0LF
I did the de-flood procedure and no luck, still will not start.

Spoke with another mechanic and he was saying it could be the timing has slipped if I have never changed the belt.

Is that a possible scenario?
Tell your mechanic he would not make it as a comedian..Because HIS timing is off ..Badupcha...(rimshot,..,this thing on.,.,tap,tap?)
Old Nov 6, 2014 | 09:18 PM
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If you guys were here I would kiss you! Nohomo

So it was exactly like you stated, I took out the plugs and sure enough there were drenched. So I did as I was suggested to do and after a couple attempts, she starts with a massive cloud.

Everything is back in order and my little lady is back to normal. So thank you to everyone, I was so glad I didn't listen to that mechanic and just went here.

I will be sure to come here if I have any further issues with my car. Thanks again guys!

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