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86 TII swap won't start, but really wants to.

Old 03-03-10, 07:12 PM
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Thanks guys, I'll make check it out tomorrow. During the day again, Friday latest. You're all awesome.
Old 03-05-10, 05:24 PM
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Okay, so I followed the directions here from satch (in pm) and hailers as best I could. Thanks guys. Here's the pic. Does it look a little off? The angle's a little odd too.



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Look at post #99 in this thread and look at the pic of the pulley. It shows how it needs to be matched with the mark on the "right" (YELLOW hash) while you have it marked with the "left" hash mark. Rotate the pulley around again until you have it matched properly and then look at the CAS once again.
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Okay, fixed it. Off? Or do you need a better pic from a different angle?
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Old 03-06-10, 01:42 PM
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It looks correct.
SHould be right but wait on one of the bigger guys to double check me.
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Originally Posted by BravePotato
Okay, fixed it. Off? Or do you need a better pic from a different angle?
Close enough. Actually, next time you have it out, take the cover off the CAS and then align the marks on the bottom of the CAS. Then when holding that positon, look into the top of the CAS and ...........what you see, is what you should see once the CAS has actually been installed in the engine. Much like your last picture. The two top teeth just cut across the corner of the two black coils.

Second jpg of your pulley is right.
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Under my air box. It smelled strongly of fuel. I think at least part of the problem is that its REALLY flooded.
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Your car should have the solenoid resistor "and" the fuel pump relay and resistor which is completely different then the solenoid resistor. If your pick is recent "it appears" you only have one of the two.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...enoid+resistor

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https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...resistor+relay
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And we're certain I need both? Perhaps my engine is being constantly flooded b/c I'm missing this? Yeah, the pic was taken today.
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Originally Posted by BravePotato
And we're certain I need both? Perhaps my engine is being constantly flooded b/c I'm missing this? Yeah, the pic was taken today.
Focus on post #6.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...+opening+relay
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Originally Posted by HAILERS
The series four TURBO car has a fuel pump/resistor relay package in front of the air filter assy. Unlike the non turbo series four that does not have this package.

The power goes thru the circuit opening relay then to the fuel pump resistor relay package in front of the afm/airfilter, then to the fuel pump on a TURBO car.

It's gotta be plugged in on a turbo car.
Okay. Sweet! So I know I need it, right? Now I can add it. Should I buy one and plug it in, or do I need to rewire something? Thanks satch!
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Originally Posted by BravePotato
Okay. Sweet! So I know I need it, right? Now I can add it. Should I buy one and plug it in, or do I need to rewire something? Thanks satch!
First off, do you know how your fuel pump is working now? Is it running off of your circuit opening relay which an NA would use? Did you jumper your fuel pump check connector and turn the key to on and check for voltage on the blue wire feeding to the fuel pump located in the rear? I know you smell fuel but I wish you would verify whether the pump is receiving voltage from the blue (L) wire. I think I have assisted you enough to do this simple check.
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I haven't messed with my fuel pump set up, other than replace my pump with and FD pump.

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You could easily check to see if you have it visually or you could just jumper the fuel check connector and turn the key to on and then check for voltage on the blue (L) wire that is part of the rear harness under your hatch carpeting that feeds into your fuel pump conector.
So pull up the hatch carpet and test the pump connector (by the left speaker column) at ON? I don't understand "jumper".

I have four 550cc low imp. injectors. Right yomomspimp06?

As soon as I make sure I know how to test it, I'll go check.
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Originally Posted by BravePotato
I haven't messed with my fuel pump set up, other than replace my pump with and FD pump.



So pull up the hatch carpet and test the pump connector (by the left speaker column) at ON? I don't understand "jumper".

I have four 550cc low imp. injectors. Right yomomspimp06?

As soon as I make sure I know how to test it, I'll go check.
There is a plug which is yellow in color that usually has a black rubber boot surrounding it. It is located by the passenger fender and the plug comes from the harness that runs by that area. The plug has two terminals so take a jumper wire and place each end into both of the terminals in the plug.

Also, and this is very important. The rubber hose that comes from the fuel filter is connected to the "front hard line" and not the "rear hard line." Is this how yours is connected?
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Lol. Yeah the fuel filter in the engine bay leads to the front hard line, not the return. Is a jumper wire just a piece of electrical wire thats stuck in both terminals? So this is by the ecu or the pump (front or back)? Sorry, having a dense day. Thanks for your patience though! I should send you some candy! Hailers too.
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Originally Posted by BravePotato
Lol. Yeah the fuel filter in the engine bay leads to the front hard line, not the return. Is a jumper wire just a piece of stereo wire thats stuck in both terminals? So this is by the ecu or the pump (front or back)? Sorry, having a dense day. Thanks for your patience though! I should send you some candy! Hailers too.
Engine bay, by the passenger fender within a foot or so of the boost sensor. Might be hidden under the harness but it is there and yes the jumper wire is just a simple single wire with both ends exposed. Only needs to be a few inches long.

Also of importance. Is your engine a us or Japanese version? On JDMs the fuel lines are reversed when compared to a US one.

And as far as the candy, we want kegs and jugs. I'll take the jugs!
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I'm missing what I'm supposed to do after I use the jumper wire. Test the vdc's where I stuck the jumper? Having kegs delivered to you two could be pricey. But if by jugs you mean *****, my wife's got a pair I could share Lol.
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Originally Posted by BravePotato
I'm missing what I'm supposed to do after I use the jumper wire. Test the vdc's where I stuck the jumper? Having kegs delivered to you two could be pricey. But if by jugs you mean *****, my wife's got a pair I could share Lol.
You've been drinking or inhaling too much or both but you turn the key to on after the plug is jumpered and try to read for voltage from the blue wire that plugs into your fuel pump harness which is under the rear hatch carpeting.
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Oh! Well that makes more sense, lol. And hey! I've got to pay my new friends some how right? If you get my car running you can have pics of whatever you want! Lol. I'm sure she won't mind. (I love my wife, she's awesome, hot and wonderful.) I'll try and do this, but I'm going to leave in 20 minutes so it may wait till tomorrow.

Oh and I believe its a US-spec engine.
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US engine or Japanese?
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I'm pretty sure its US. But I emailed & PMed yomomspimp06, the seller, just to make sure.

Last night I dreamed I was driving around in my car *tear* Lol.
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Originally Posted by BravePotato
I'm pretty sure its US. But I emailed & PMed yomomspimp06, the seller, just to make sure.
The reason I ask is because I believe the fuel lines are reversed.
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Yeah, I thought about that two. But I switched them and tried to start it with no luck, lol.

Okay I'm off, talk to you (all) later tonight or tomorrow.
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Okay, so I jumpered A yellow connector by my boost sensor. Not sure if it was the right one. Then tested the blue wire that is one of four(?) that connects the fuel pump to the harness (on the speaker tower). Was this right? I got a reading 2.92 jumped and 2.94 not jumped (which makes me think I jumped the wrong connectors. Heres a pic:
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That's not the plug. The plug I speak of is "yellow" and is covered in a rubber boot. It is at the opposite side of your boost sensor. And related to the pic you provided where is your variable resistor?

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