6 Port Turbo Wrapup!!
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Ok I am days away from the first test drive with the Swap...
Here is what the car has and the questions will follow...
S4 N/A block
S5 T2 manifolds
S4 T2 TB
S5 turbo/wastegate
Rb 2.5 inch DP
S5 front cover
dual alt pulleys
T2 fuel pump
Hks BOV
Custom 3" intake piping w/ filter
T2 secondaries
Now for the questions:
Should I remove the OEM MAF and put in the T2 MAF? What are the advantages?
(this is a vert so it has the 338 ECU)
I also am considering putting in the T2 Boost sensor.. Any thoughts?
Let me know if there is anything I am missing before I try to drive this thing down the road.. I am considering a manual boost controller to keep it at 8psi or under....
Here is what the car has and the questions will follow...
S4 N/A block
S5 T2 manifolds
S4 T2 TB
S5 turbo/wastegate
Rb 2.5 inch DP
S5 front cover
dual alt pulleys
T2 fuel pump
Hks BOV
Custom 3" intake piping w/ filter
T2 secondaries
Now for the questions:
Should I remove the OEM MAF and put in the T2 MAF? What are the advantages?
(this is a vert so it has the 338 ECU)
I also am considering putting in the T2 Boost sensor.. Any thoughts?
Let me know if there is anything I am missing before I try to drive this thing down the road.. I am considering a manual boost controller to keep it at 8psi or under....
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OK what about this.. I have a T2 harness that I modified/rewired to accept the S5 t2 injectors.. Should I just run the Modified T2 harness with the S4 Vert ecu?? or will I need to go ahead and use the T2 ecu too? I have all the parts it's just a matter of what combo of parts to use...
At a bare minimum i would suggest the T2 ECU with the corrisponding sensors that you will need to run the ECU. I would also suggest a bare minimum of 4X 550cc's, or better yet 550pr, 680sc.
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IMO run the following
T2 ECU
all 550's
T2 MAF(n/a MAF will cause it to run lean on a turboed engine with 550's)
T2 pressure sensor(iirc the n/a boost sensor does not read positive manifold pressure)
T2 ECU
all 550's
T2 MAF(n/a MAF will cause it to run lean on a turboed engine with 550's)
T2 pressure sensor(iirc the n/a boost sensor does not read positive manifold pressure)
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The TII ECU is of course better, but I and others were fine with the NA ECU. If you go to the TII ECU, you need the TII pressure sensor and AFM as well...
You definitly need more fuel though. 550CC secondaries are not enough for 8 PSI of boost.
Of course upgrading the primaries means that you need some form of fuel control like an S-AFC, but it's hard to justify buying a $200 S-AFC when a Megasquirt is $140...
You definitly need more fuel though. 550CC secondaries are not enough for 8 PSI of boost.
Of course upgrading the primaries means that you need some form of fuel control like an S-AFC, but it's hard to justify buying a $200 S-AFC when a Megasquirt is $140...
SAFC is easy to use though, takes 30 mins to install and another 30 to tune, MS would take several days to do the same and takes technical knowledge of how injection systems work and how to tune them.
won't the high compression rotors result in boost creep though? just something that popped into my head.
won't the high compression rotors result in boost creep though? just something that popped into my head.
Originally Posted by Karack
won't the high compression rotors result in boost creep though? just something that popped into my head.
But then again I have a ported 4 port motor.
below 2psi by 6k? you have a boost leak then or a severely ported wastegate and a sticking wastegate actuator. the job of the wastegate is to limit boost not pull it below the preset spring value which is 5.5psi for S4 and 7.5?psi for S5.
did you port your wastegate?
did you port your wastegate?
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35th hundred post... WOW! Imagine if my old account wasn't hacked and whatnot.. I started posting here back in 1999 when it was a different deal all together...
I am going to attempt to use all T2 items I guess.. Can I use an N/A TB on the t2 manifolds though?
I am going to attempt to use all T2 items I guess.. Can I use an N/A TB on the t2 manifolds though?
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35th hundred post... WOW! Imagine if my old account wasn't hacked and whatnot.. I started posting here back in 1999 when it was a different deal all together...
I am going to attempt to use all T2 items I guess.. Can I use an N/A TB on the t2 manifolds though?
I am going to attempt to use all T2 items I guess.. Can I use an N/A TB on the t2 manifolds though?
Originally Posted by Karack
below 2psi by 6k? you have a boost leak then or a severely ported wastegate and a sticking wastegate actuator. the job of the wastegate is to limit boost not pull it below the preset spring value which is 5.5psi for S4 and 7.5?psi for S5.
did you port your wastegate?
did you port your wastegate?
With the boost controller working, I hit 10 psi, but it will drop to below 5 by 5,000rpm... So... with the streetport and the higher compression rotors, I may be outflowing the turbo... maybe my exhaust is restricting it... don't know for sure.
This same turbo ran 10psi and held 8 almost to redline before the rebuild.
Trust me, I checked everything I could possibly think of! lol
Especially since the haltech is set to turn on the secondaries at 2psi, so I was having my secondaries shut off on the dyno at just before 6,000rpm, causing a SEVERE lean condition... luckily at that point it was pretty much NA. :P
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