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Old 01-17-08, 11:15 AM
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5 interior beeps..keeps on beepin.

I had this issue before but someone told me it was the return for the turn signals wasn't lined up. so i disconnected that entire thing and it didn't happen the entire night after i took it off. The next day i start my car and then 5 or so minutes later it starts again. It is really annoying and i am driving my car to Cali next week and cant handle those 5 beeps...anyone know anything???
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I believe the 5 beeps is the steering wheel sensor. Did you pull or change your steering wheel lately?
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Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor
I believe the 5 beeps is the steering wheel sensor. Did you pull or change your steering wheel lately?
yes i did...what would i need to do to kill the beeps??
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The arrow on the portion that turns with the steering wheel has to be at 9 o'clock when the steering wheel is straight. This same part has two tabs (at 12 and 6 if aligned properly with steering centered); these go into the back of the steering wheel hub. The power steering computer is what's beeping at you.
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Originally Posted by pfsantos
The arrow on the portion that turns with the steering wheel has to be at 9 o'clock when the steering wheel is straight. This same part has two tabs (at 12 and 6 if aligned properly with steering centered); these go into the back of the steering wheel hub. The power steering computer is what's beeping at you.
I disconnected that part that hooks into the back of the wheel/hub. it was broken and messing up my steering. when it was hooked up still i did all that and it still didnt fix anything.
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You can un plug the PS computer if you can't figure out how to get those tabs aligned properly. Or if its broken, you could replace it.

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Originally Posted by FAQ
I keep hearing a beep beep beep
Probably the power steering computer telling you there is a problem with the system. The number of beeps before pausing will indicate the problem.
1-beep, pause, repeat - in case abnormality of speed sensor signal:
In case broken wires or short circuits occur to sensors or harnesses, the buzzer sounds 60-seconds after the engine speed signal of 2200 rpm continues for 18-seconds.
2-beeps, pause, repeat - in case abnormality of engine speed signal:
The buzzer sounds twice and repeats when the vehicle speed signal is missing input and/or no engine speed signal is found (short circuit, broken wire, etc.)
3-beeps, pause, repeat - in case abnormality of stepping motor signal:
The buzzer sounds when there are broken wires or short circuits in coils or harnesses.
4-beeps, pause, repeat - in case abnormality of the power steering microcomputer:
The buzzer sounds 4 and repeats when there are circuit troubles other than with the micro computer.
5-beeps, pause, repeat - in case abnormality of steering sensor signal: Steering sensor is mis-aligned or failed or steering wheel has been improperly installed.
5 beeps? I would guess align steering sensor, replace steering sensor, or re-install steering wheel. And next time check the FAQ first and/or search.
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Originally Posted by classicauto
You can un plug the PS computer if you can't figure out how to get those tabs aligned properly. Or if its broken, you could replace it.

will that affect my power steering??
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Originally Posted by ericgrau
5 beeps? I would guess align steering sensor, replace steering sensor, or re-install steering wheel. And next time check the FAQ first and/or search.
which part is the power steering sensor. and im new to the forums so i thought this was the place to go for questions.
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Think of it this way. Since this was covered in the FAQs, you could have found the answer within 5 minutes of looking through it. They aren't there for the soul idea of people insulting you and telling you to do something else. Believe it or not, they are there for the convenience of people who have a question that has been covered a million times. Heck, I look through that thing a lot, because for some reason, I learn something new every time.
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He did ask where to find the power steering sensor, that question is valid enough I'd think. I dunno what it looks like but you could try the FSM (download from FAQ) or wait until (maybe) someone knows the answer and replies.
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Originally Posted by rotaryat16
will that affect my power steering??
Yes, it will kill your power steering.

the power steering needs the steering wheel position sensor to work correctly for the power steering to work correctly.

So if you removed or didn't install the wheel correctly (as covered in the FAQ for FC) you need to fix the steering position sensor or disconnect the power steering computer.
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Originally Posted by ericgrau
He did ask where to find the power steering sensor, that question is valid enough I'd think. I dunno what it looks like but you could try the FSM (download from FAQ) or wait until (maybe) someone knows the answer and replies.

Thanks man, but like i said i am new so every time i try searching anything under the FAQ regarding this issue i dont get anything...and i actually have no idea what FSM stands for.
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FSM is the acronym for factory service manual choose one of the below.


(86-88 only)
http://www.teamfc3s.org/main/factory...ual/1986_1988/
and (89-91 only)
http://www.teamfc3s.org/main/factory...ual/1989_1991/
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The power steering wheel position sensor is at the back of the steering wheel. Once you remove the steering wheel you'll see it right away. One part pivots because it has tabs that stick out towards alignment holes in the wheel, and the other part is fixed to the steering column. When the steering wheel is straight, the tabs should be vertical and the arrow on the pivoting portion aligned with the fixed portion (I believe 9 o' clock).

We have variable assist power steering. The computer (under the steering column above your knees when driving) adjusts assist depending on either RPM or speed and turning angle. If you unplug the p/s computer, I think you'll still have power steering (not 100% sure), but it won't be variable.

With the system working, I can sometimes feel the changes in assist. My advice - fix the problem if all it is is putting a new sensor in. Make sure you mark/paint the wheel position relative to the shaft (to maintain alignment), and torque the nut for safety.
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Originally Posted by pfsantos
The power steering wheel position sensor is at the back of the steering wheel. Once you remove the steering wheel you'll see it right away. One part pivots because it has tabs that stick out towards alignment holes in the wheel, and the other part is fixed to the steering column. When the steering wheel is straight, the tabs should be vertical and the arrow on the pivoting portion aligned with the fixed portion (I believe 9 o' clock).

We have variable assist power steering. The computer (under the steering column above your knees when driving) adjusts assist depending on either RPM or speed and turning angle. If you unplug the p/s computer, I think you'll still have power steering (not 100% sure), but it won't be variable.

With the system working, I can sometimes feel the changes in assist. My advice - fix the problem if all it is is putting a new sensor in. Make sure you mark/paint the wheel position relative to the shaft (to maintain alignment), and torque the nut for safety.

Thanks man, im gonna try popping out the black piece and putting it back in, i looked around and it worked for another kid on here so why not try...if worse comes to worse ill unplug the PS CPU and see whats up with that. Thanks again for ur input!!
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you've been here since 06. Haven't you graduated from noob yet?
j/k, I will always be a noob...just the way things are.


Be careful, I broke a tab off the white plastic piece but was lucky and it didn't ruin the part.

Also, once you get everything back together, it must be accurate. Just one slot left or right will cause it to continue to malfunction.


btw, is there supposed to be grease in there. I mean it is plastic parts in there.
I didn't know any better, so I cleaned the old grease that was there and put new grease in. That didn't feel right so I got alot of it out.
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Originally Posted by 03/08/87
you've been here since 06. Haven't you graduated from noob yet?
j/k, I will always be a noob...just the way things are.


Be careful, I broke a tab off the white plastic piece but was lucky and it didn't ruin the part.

Also, once you get everything back together, it must be accurate. Just one slot left or right will cause it to continue to malfunction.


btw, is there supposed to be grease in there. I mean it is plastic parts in there.
I didn't know any better, so I cleaned the old grease that was there and put new grease in. That didn't feel right so I got alot of it out.
haha, yeah, i just started using my account though..and there is grease in mine.. i am gonna clean it out though and re-grease it.

I actually disconnected the turn signal return... its just down to that back part that points 9 o'clock all the time... is that suppose to move?? i am copying my old Series 5 and i cant figure out what they did different on that one...

i need to figure out a way just to stop that damn beeping... i have tried workin on the entire thing trying everything people suggest but it just wont shut up. Its driving me insane.. i am just gonna have to pull the PS fuse or something...
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Originally Posted by rotaryat16
haha, yeah, i just started using my account though..and there is grease in mine.. i am gonna clean it out though and re-grease it.

I actually disconnected the turn signal return... its just down to that back part that points 9 o'clock all the time... is that suppose to move?? i am copying my old Series 5 and i cant figure out what they did different on that one...

i need to figure out a way just to stop that damn beeping... i have tried workin on the entire thing trying everything people suggest but it just wont shut up. Its driving me insane.. i am just gonna have to pull the PS fuse or something...
No, if you pull the power steering fuse you de-power other circuits too. The power steering fuse is not just for the power steering. It also does the rear defrost and a few other things.

If everything is in place and plugged in it should work unless you damaged the plastic bushing.

Is everything in place?
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No, if you pull the power steering fuse you de-power other circuits too. The power steering fuse is not just for the power steering. It also does the rear defrost and a few other things.

If everything is in place and plugged in it should work unless you damaged the plastic bushing.

Is everything in place?

everything is in place yeah. The only thing i took off was the top piece for the turn signals.. and everything else is still where it was. i took the back piece off (the 9 o'clock one) and replaced it..but i dunno if it is suppose to turn easily or be tight in there...everything else is still where it was.
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Originally Posted by rotaryat16
everything is in place yeah. The only thing i took off was the top piece for the turn signals.. and everything else is still where it was. i took the back piece off (the 9 o'clock one) and replaced it..but i dunno if it is suppose to turn easily or be tight in there...everything else is still where it was.
it should turn smoothly and easy. If it doesn't you probably didn't put the wheel back on correctly (lining up the tabs with the holes in the back of the steering wheel).
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YOu need to completely remove the sensor (white washer assembly) and disconnect it from the harness to be able to access the black ring that is behind it.

Then you need to point all arrows to 9 o'clock.

Took some foolin' around but that is what it takes.




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