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450+ HP NA 3 rotor 2nd gen- one badass car!

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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 01:12 AM
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450+ HP NA 3 rotor 2nd gen- one badass car!

Check out this badass full race 2nd gen that puts the hurt on V8 supercars down under!

Yeah it has a built 488hp 289ftlbs P-port 20b, but they are building up a 13G for more torque...

http://www.cityperformancecentre.com...ifications.pdf
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 01:32 AM
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That is amazing. I wanna watch that car kick some v8 butt.
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 01:35 AM
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very nice car.

BTW whats up with that 13g? how many rotors is it and whats the deal? does anyone have specs on it?
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 01:44 AM
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13G is Mazda Factory Race 3 rotor peripheral port race engine built for competition in LeMans. Though it was not their winning engine (4 rotor RB26 was).

In "stock" form 13G is 450hp. RB modded one to 930hp in '93? for their 3rd gen Bonneville racer.
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 01:47 AM
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why cant i view it????
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 01:50 AM
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yep, i have problem viewing it too..
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 01:51 AM
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you need adobe acrobat reader. should be available online.
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 02:00 AM
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ahhhh i dont wanna download, i'll just read the replies lol
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 02:21 AM
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Here are some bigger pics from that article.











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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 02:23 AM
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whoa das crazy
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 02:25 AM
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Hey look, its series 4 (rubstrip...)
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 02:54 AM
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Thats the coolest thing I have ever seen...
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 02:55 AM
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Thanks for the thread Ian. Also thanks for posting the pics Jason. Currently, the machine Is pooped.

I've saved the pics.
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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i want to sex that thing

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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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emagine the cockpit temps the driver has to go through!! the engine RIGHT under his arm like that. Thtat thing is absolutely nuts!!! i wantone, even thought that thing structually isnt an FC anymore. I wonder if hell trade cars?? -alex
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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Yo,


I've heard: "God is my Copilot."


But never:

"20B is my Copilot."

*grin*

Go NA powah! If you want to race, lose the turbo!

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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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imagine what those webbers must sound like right beside you going downt he straight mmmmmmmmm
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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Webers?

It's fuel injected... those are Motec throttle bodies- three of them! 2 injectors each.

I'm surprised they have standard compression 9.5:1 rotors!
With everything else they did, I'm surprised they didn't bump it up to higher compression... it is an NA.
Maybe it's not allowed by the class rules.


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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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Hell yeah! NA power kicks ***! Thanks for the post Ian. I see they were serious about that mid-engine bit. I wanna hear it!!
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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So if a 3 rotor can make 488 HP, why can't a 2 rotor make 325 HP? that is 2/3s 488 It doesn't make since that our cars (n/a) can't make much more than 200 HP, when a 3 rotor can make soo much more.
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Use your brain for a second. It's a purpose-build, peripheral port race engine in a race car, not some stock motor with a few bolt-ons. It's quite possible (but not easy or cheap) to build a 325hp NA 13B.

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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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A pp 2 rotor n/a does make 300 hp.
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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NA Power.

Last time I was down at Mariah they were making 300+ with room for improvement when they swap over to a fuel injected setup from their streetported E production car. It's a gnarly street port, but a streetport nontheless.

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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 01:40 AM
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Why won't my car make 325 hp? I don't get it?
PP with heavily lightened and modified equipment, and complete EMS to control it... 300+hp definately doable (and has been so many times) at 10,000 rpm
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