have you driven a turbo rotary?.................

 

having regularly auto-crossed my 270 whp turbo RX-7 and my 160 hp 20V 4age swapped corolla (no torque, nothing happens until about 5k) I don't think you're going to like a built NA very much for auto-x.

most of the time in auto-x you're not at the right RPM so you won't be able to use most of that 300 whp even if you do get it at 10000 rpm or whatever you'll be revving to. you'll be stuck down at 3000 rpm making like 50 hp.

if you're really serious about this I would get a really high final drive ratio (4.7 or more) and really small tires (the smallest you can fit around your brakes, you're probably going to want to run 275/35/15 Hoosier A6s.)

I run 255/40/13s on my corolla and it's still not very fun in slow corners.

 

This might be deemed the most ownage i've seen this year.

 

I'm guessing this never happened . Hey OP, I can build a n/a motor that'll do 400hp n/a, I promise. I'll do it in a couple months. Since I say it can do 400, it means you're already successful at doing so. So, yaaayyyy! You're the proud owner of a 400hp n/a rotary!! It doesn't exist yet, but still...

 

haha give your fc to me so it won't have to be humiliated by you driving it. I feel bad for your fc.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrAjh...eature=related

its posible, just not with the thread originator... (222wkw is 333whp btw)

 

it IS fun, i drove mine today, every car should be like that

 

this is the first thing that i thought of after reading the first post.

the OP is having a engine built to make "300 na whp" but nobody knows what injectors to use?

sounds like a great "builder"...haha

 

I disagree that turbo is better than na at the autocross, most of the time you would be over powered and can't properly put it down.

 

Could turn down the boost IF necessary.

 

the easiest way to stay na and make 300 hp is with a 350 haha

 

+1

 

wow....

 

Original post:

After someone responds in a similar manner to his original posting:

 

I gotta say, I've been thinking about your 300rwhp claim all day, and I've come to theses conclusions:
The cash you'll end up spending on getting an NA up to 300 is a waste of money and your powerband will actually be less than a turbo powerband. Sure you'll hit 300 with that NA, but at what rpms? 8K? 9K? 10+K rpms? So you'll have a useless powerband and then power for about 2k rpms and not suitable for autoX

Have you ever even driven a turbo rotary or any turbo engine for that matter? Boost is not an ON and OFF sort of thing. My rx I autoX with is wasted to 13psi, does it ever get up to 13psi? hardly never in an autoX. How about in a turn and then suddenly boosting and loosing control? Are you joking? You'd have to litterally punch the throttle and hold before the turn and while in the turn in order for the turbo to spool up high enough to make a spin out. Doesn't happen. Boost is variable with throttle input, this is common knowledge. You're not gunna hit full boost at half throttle or really any throttle other than WOT so you can set your spin out from boosting fears aside. My engine hits well over 300rwhp, I have the slips to prove it and if you were to look at my powerband I think even you'd agree its more desirable in an AutoX than a PP NA making almost and much as my turbo engine.

And then again, cost. (lets say this loosely) you could have a rebuilt ported or stock port 13BT, with all the fuel injection goodies, a good cheaper engine management like say an Rtek which mine has, and a decent turbo and its goodies like a FMIC and what not, a nice clutch, and I bet I could put that engine setup together and have it pumping out 300rwhp for around 4 grand.... Care to ball-park the cost of a 300rwhp NA engine?.....

With that said... I'd love to see a 300rwhp NA engine! Bring on the build thread with pictures and videos and what not. Don't get me wrong, I totally support your build, because its not coming out of my wallet

 

????
333 rwhp = 248 rwkw
222rwkw is 298 rwhp,, not quite 300 rwhp,, but ill give that one a cigar

as for the OP,, anybody yet mentioned how 4.875 and 5.1 rear ends are not avail for FC's without major bodge of the pinion extension ?

 

hmm another good point. having 300hp at 10K rpms and yet the gear ratio's to even use that kinda hp at all.

 

I love how some little newblet who doesn't know the difference between your and you're, something that I learned in probably 3rd grade, is calling people retarded. GTFO and go buy a honduh. Seriously. Please


First - have you done the math and figured out gear ratios and rpm's when changing gears? Do you understand swapping final drives?

Second - Have you ever driven a turbo-charged rotary? Do you understand turbo sizing?

Third - you do realize that torque will get you around a race track not HP? My twin turbo'ed rotary makes more torque at 2500 rpms and carries all the way to redline than your PP will make ANYWHERE.

And lastly; Oh you are different. In fact, I bet the state would classify you as "special"

Quoted just because it should be read again.

Meh, sometimes. I put down about 330-340 on WG and it's manageable. Full boost and 405wheel get's sketchy. I put TC on over the winter.

See above

 

I was sure it was 1.5KW:1hp......

 

Why hasn't this thread been closed yet?...........Close it already, its full of fail.

 

Ummmmm ok?!Have fun revving it out! Let me know how much fuel you burn in one event! lol