Just to see a show of hands, how many of you guys would be interested in a high quality mil-spec harness for your 2nd gens?

 

For the whole car?
What specifically makes it "mil spec"?

 

Just the emissions side, the wire will be mil spec for the higher durability to heat and other ingress interference. ive sourced quite a few of the oem plugs including the ECU plugs. If the demand is high enough ill make some prototypes.

 

Mil Spec.
Haha, what a joke. I love how people think that instantly means "Best quality." If only, remember they buy from the lowest bidder

 

lol... which mil spec are you referring to?

 

what do you mean "they" hayseed?

Im trying to help people here, im not asking who the biggest troll on the forum is.

These would be hand made from the highest quality wire and hardware i can get for a decent price for you guys. not some ebay junk and im sure way cheaper than oem

 

I'm interested.

In a few months I'm going to build a set of harnesses for my car, but it never hurts to see how others do it.

Stock ECU only? What about custom orders?

 

Im sure we can do almost anything, as long as we source the connectors. I will do haltech for sure.

 

True, but that's after reviewing the bidders that actually met the specifications for working in hell environments.

 

So you are only redoing emissions related items in the engine harness? Still confused as to what milspec is.

Anyways, redone custom wiring harnesses will sell. These cars have awful wiring. Girlfriends car is down due to engine harness. I'll need mine redone too. Also need 1 more alternator harness and a fuel pump rewire as Rotary Related closed before I could purchase any more from them.

 

I think using the term "mil spec" was a mistake, simply because it is semi-pretentious and confusing.
In terms of hardware (fasteners, wire, paint, etc.) "mil spec" merely proves a paper trail showing that the part is exactly what you say it is...but does NOT necessarily prove the part is any better than a non spec piece.
In terms of technique, "mil spec" may specify crimping instead of soldering but again, doesn't speak to superiority, just adherence to a set of rules.

The OP could have just asked about a high quality replacement harness, maybe detailed what exactly made it better and avoided all this "mil spec" nonsense.

 

lol why are you still whining?

MIL-W-5086/1

yes this wire is built in accordance with military specifications, im not saying mil spec to try to be flashy and trick you into buying junk

Mil-Spec Wire and Cable FAQs from Allied Wire and Cable - Manufacturer and Distributor of Military Wire and Cable

 

That was making an observation, not whining.

 

and this is why we dont have nice things around here.....
im going to eventually have my entire car rewired, haltech, and barrel plug for engine bay
gotta pay to play clokker

Lloyd

 

Refc... i have a box... and i mean a box of bulkhead connectors. And spools of wire... idk how much cost your expecting in starting constructing these harnesses. I do have an idea how much this stuff costs lol.. i have lesser density qd connectors but i havent dug through the box and seen matches. But a proper mil/motorsport spec harness is unbeatable. I plan on building one when i do my engine swap. So i have a bunch of excess that i will never use and would like to see it put to a better use then dust collection

 

I was thinking about doing some harness's with the a sealed firewall bulkhead for easy disconnect.

 

nice ill keep you in mind when i start ordering materials.

oh yea
patch harness options anyone?

 

a body harness would be nice, this would pretty much be the same for everyone

 

I would love to tackle that as well, and im sure if all goes as planned we can do it

 

A bit random and wrong place to post, but I could sure use a fresh harness for my '85 GSLSE.

 

Historically, a lot of people will tell you that they want it until they find out the price. Most people do not want to pay $1,200 for a good mil-spec harness for their stock EMS.

 

youve got a solid point Evil Aviator
but i know i will, no question. for my haltech setup especially. the fc wiring is a joke at this point, 20something years later, you want a fully built car, but original wiring? thats just dumb
gotta pay to play gentlemen

Lloyd

 

Some already have a new engine harness, thats why a body harness would be nice.

 

I totally agree. Plus, you forgot about the frustration with trying to tune and/or troubleshoot your new EMS with the crappy old wiring and half-dead sensors, not to mention that the stock S4 TPS is nearly worthless.

I think the OP would be better off selling good harnesses for a standalone EMS installation. Even better, how about some nice new plug-and-play fuel injector leads and connectors to replace our brittle old wires and cracked connectors? How about rebuilt cluster switches? How about a good, ready-to-install wiring and relay kit to replace our horrible power window wiring? Maybe even a fuel pump rewiring kit?

 

If PATCH harness is the same as used on a Breakout Box type device, then that would help someone check out the ECU inputs/outputs easier than backprobing the ECU plugs when connected to the ECU. Been there/done that yrs ago.

Anybody who does not know what makes up the EM hanress needs to go read the wiring section of the FSM. Anybody who orders a Engine harness and ends up getting the EM harness deserves the results of his mistake. Hard to carry on a post with people who call a apple a orange.