synesthete

With a near perfect launch i got 15.6 with nothing but exaust and clutch upgraded a drop in racing beat air filter, and premix. I have no doubt that getting to the 14s would be more difficult but c'mon 15.5 that must not of had much in the way of tuning or none at all. With a SAFC or standalone i would expect high 14s which is faster than stock tII. I want a tII though but N/A is no slouch with just a little work and assuming you have good compression.

elnots

Was a 2005 Mazda MPV. So yes it had *****. I'm not the best driver but I don't "suck".

jackhild59

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I have one of those '*****' 2003 accords with the I-4. And a manual transmission. Basically, the accord has 160 hp and 164 ft/lb of torque. The weight is right at 3000#, or about 150# less than the V6. My recollection of 0-60 for the I-4 is around 8.0 for the auto and 7.2 for my version with the 5sp manual. FWIW, the I-4 5speed manual is much better handling than the V6 due to the better weight distribution and just a tick slower than the V6 w/auto tran.

I can also tell you that in the I-4 accord you start getting all that torque very early due to the IVTECH and the torque curve is flat like a plateau. My accord will simply blow the doors off my 1990 vert. Don't know about naturally aspirated S4 or S5 coupe, but unless you have some mods, don't get your hopes up too much.

That all being said, I seldom drive the Accord anymore. It has a roof and a boinger. It just cannot deliver the same experience as the RX7 Vert.

In an RX7 vert, everyday is a Holiday...

rotorforce

[QUOTE=synesthete]With a SAFC or standalone i would expect high 14s which is faster than stock tII.QUOTE]

1st off, who has a stock TII??

2nd, Please never compare N/A to the TII.

3rd, Stand alones and SAFC's are for fine tuning and you may more or less gain a marginal amount of HP, but not enought to gain over 1/2 a second on the quarter mile.

Do you have the time slip on that 15.6? That's pretty good for just an exhaust and clutch.

snowball

bring him over my way good luck its not a big deal anyway.

BlkS5TII

The only experience I have with a V6 Accord is in my Celica, so that's how I'll compare the two. N/A RX7's are fairly slow when stock, so if you are then you'll definitely lose. Celica GTS's are capable of high 14's stock and the couple times I've run V6 Accords it was somewhat close, with me always pulling in the top end. I'm not saying I was getting perfect times when I raced, but with my mods and seeing as how V6 Accords can land mid 14's you probably don't stand a chance.

birdman6587

Why does everyone have to hate on the NA? NAs can be quick esp with spray. My 89 gtu with full exhaust, cold air, ignition, etc and a 60 shot has pulled an 04 Mustang GT on the freeway and taken numerous ricers.

rotorforce

I don't hate the N/A.. They are great for peeling out around town, doing donuts, and burnouts.

gxlbiscuit

i have an s2000 and i love the instant power versus my t2s turbo lag.. but i love my t2s brute power and noises. if i could get 250hp out of an N/A and keep my eardrums id be al over it.

pr0digy

I do believe most of us said stock NAs are slow. Cuz they are.

And don't be thinking I have a biased opinion cuz I have 2 NAs. One is a bone stock S5 GXL in mint condition; it flies around corners and is very nimble, yes, but it is NOT fast! The other one... well... it's not stock so it doesn't count.

aznpoopy

exactly. i never said i hated the n/a. in fact a n/a s4 is probably my favorite rx-7 hands down.

i said it's slow, which it is. that doesn't mean its shitty.

bradenscreed

well, ive raced the v6 accord, he was manual, like me, and for me it was all the driver. then again, we started at a rolling start, was kinda spontaneous really, didnt know the guy, he got the jump on me, took me a second to compose myself, but i caught up quickly and pulled a car length on him before letting off. now when we went down a local twisty road full of curves and swooping chicanes i slaughtered his ***. frankly he was just as impressed as i was. honestly, i couldnt care less what car does what in the quarter. i know my car is made to handle, not go in a straight line besides, quarter is no fun, takes very little talent to shift fast, skill maybe, but very little talent. ever race around the turns, sliding through the apex like a hot knife in butter, and when its all over you remind yourself to breathe? thats what i enjoy, thats what i live for. so i guess, if you guys go in a straight line, whos to say, if youre stock you'll lose it, hands down, but if you know how to drive, take him down a twisty road, and breathe...

rotorforce

I am assuming we are still talking bout the 4cylinder accord and not the exV6?

mrtasty

i out handled a 1991 honda accord once lol

MrFC3S

AMEN!!!

Im wanting an N/A 3Rotor for myself!!! less turbo lag... lol hahahaha

Mazda RX-7 EFINI TYPE

I used to own an '03 I-4 Accord...till my younger brother totalled it . And yes...it would rape a TII. The car actually has around 180-190hp, but is rated at 160. It's actually a really fun car around the turns too. I beat an older GTO around the twisties...not that it was hard. I actually put out the back. The back seems to kick out when pushing the tires to the limit around a turn. A lot of the race depends on the driver also. Me & my elder brother have raced many cars & won...that we believed were out of our league. For Example: BMW M Coupe (Hwy), V8 Trans AM (friend's rebuilt...POS), Impala SS(Hwy), and a Cuda, Lexus ES300...among many others. The car actually shines on the highway more than from light to light. We now have a 3.2TL, which is really strong down low, but we believe the accord would beat it on the highway. Even the reviews for the I-4 5-spd were amazing, because everyone who drove it thought it had a V6. BTW...speaking of minivans, our '03 Odyssey ran just about equal with the accord...so there are minivans out there that will take the N/A RX-7s.

Tyblat

I love the rotary like everyone here, but the n/a Fc's just arent that fast. The RX8 could probabily take him no problem, but it also has 20 years of research into it that makes it put out that much more while still being N/A.

rotarybeat1287

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S4 verts stock arent that fast. lol. i pulled on one about a car and a half and kept going in my S5 automatic (coupe). which is pretty damn slow.

pengarufoo

Stock NA RX-7 is weak like clock radio speakers.

The accord is going to win.

Unless the drivers interfere with the numbers. The 3.0L accord will laugh at your stock NA.

KhanArtisT

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Seriously, NAs are slow as ***** when compared to other cars. They have just enough power to have fun with, but not to drag race other cars espeically new ones. **** my friend's stock 06 4 door focus ATX beater hangs within a fender with my car haha.

Tell him you want to race, go to a twisty road and wax his ***

koukifc3s

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so did you lose?

90WhiteVrt

I'm going to have to agree and say that N/A's arent quarter mile dragsters. However, they are not slow. Before I got my vert, i had a stock S5 N/A coupe and that car would destroy anything in my school parking lot through a back country road. Stopping power was insane and it saw a top speed on a track of 145 mph. For a car that was 16 yrs old at the time, it does pretty damn well.
BTW, the car was all original and had 130k miles on it.

My5ABaby

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I own an N/A and love it to death. However, even with a auxilliary streetport, the car isn't "fast". I'm probably running ~150hp. Compared to modern cars, even including the weight difference, that's nothing.

Now, that's for straight line speed (which we're discussing here). If you want to talk about the twisites... that's another story.

AHarada

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I drive an 04' 4 cyl AT Accord right now as my daily driver. A non-turbo FC revved on me at a light a few nights ago and we went at it. From a stop we got up to about 70 mph. I probably took him by about 2-2.5 cars. The 6 cylinder Accords would have no problem taking a NA FC. Now if it's a turbo FC, that would be a much better matchup.

Tyblat

N/A Fc's are handicapped by design flaws. the Renesis puts out more than a Turbo II and it's Naturally Aspirated. Twenty years of research pays off I guess lol.