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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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is there much more you can do to an s5 wg? i agree though. 18psi is too much. you arent gaining any power just a bigger chance of detonation. detonation is rotary speak for death.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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LOL 19PSI ON A STOCK TURBO HAHAHHAA.

18psi+stock injectors+stockregulator=KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

i find it very hard to beleive that your motor still runs if it went up to 18psi
He has an aftermarket ecu and doesn't know if his injectors are stock. Reading comprehension.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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wtf is that is even possible 18psi on stock turbo O_o

im surprise your motor hasn't blown yet.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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ok i just went back to the guy who i bought then car from and i got the injectors that spouse to be ecu set for now they are 1200cc on top and stock rebuild one on the bottom and it a tuned jdm spec j ecu dont no whats the chip in it

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He has an aftermarket ecu and doesn't know if his injectors are stock. Reading comprehension.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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not sure if its stock turbo tough? i mean its stock but turbine on it doesnt look stock looks like my 60 trim one on my t04e
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 02:00 AM
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I dont mean to thread jack but yeah. When I first swap my Tii in (3' dp RB etc, N374 with knight sport chip. I loved the boost and kept flooring it. Didnt know I boosted 15-18 lbs until I got a boost gauge. I even did it after I learned about running lean at high psi with stock injectors. I just couldnt help it when a Honda pulled up. But it still made 3 round trips to MN and IA (about 3-4 hours each way). But it does idle weird now but boost still comes in really good.
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 02:04 AM
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10-12 should b norm. 18 ........wow....2much hot air. let me know when the engine blows
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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actually aaron, I've seen a S4 log manifold mod'd for an external wastegate!! ;P
It wasn't terribly cost retarded, but I think I'd just upgrade at that point LOL
Well yes, but that doesn't exactly translate to modding the stock internal wastegate as posted.
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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maybe its a BNR
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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ok top is 1200cc rc injetors stock ones on the bottom >??
dont i need a higher one on the botom too???
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Not if your computer is programed to run on that combo.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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Well yes, but that doesn't exactly translate to modding the stock internal wastegate as posted
true , true. Just thought I'd share. It was an interesting "mod".
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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Holy **** this thread of full of failed reading comprehension... The guys said he has upgraded ecu(probably chipped SPECIFICALLY TO RUN THIS SETUP), injectors, and turbo, yet people still say OMG 18 PSI on all stock stuff say bye bye engine!!!

READ DAMNIT PEOPLE!
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by h_block88
not sure if its stock turbo tough? i mean its stock but turbine on it doesnt look stock looks like my 60 trim one on my t04e
Does it look like any of these?

http://bnrturbos.com/2ndGen.htm
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by stevensimon
is there much more you can do to an s5 wg? i agree though. 18psi is too much. you arent gaining any power just a bigger chance of detonation. detonation is rotary speak for death.
Heres what I did to try and not over boost. Completely removed the internal gate and flapper door. Made the hole bigger, and put a Tial 38mm.
I still over boost. I dont think there's much you can do if you have a free flow exhaust. I even have some plates in my exhaust for some back pressure....Still not enough.

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open wastegate....
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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wow that come out really nice. good job
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 2-N-D-pink
Heres what I did to try and not over boost. Completely removed the internal gate and flapper door. Made the hole bigger, and put a Tial 38mm.
I still over boost. I dont think there's much you can do if you have a free flow exhaust. I even have some plates in my exhaust for some back pressure....Still not enough
you still creep?? how do BNRs do it with a 35mm port? i have no creep at all, 3" exhaust, 5.5psi steady
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 01:21 AM
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I've got my S5 turbo ported to the equivalent area of a single 35mm, and I have no creep at all. 2.5+" open exhaust system. Without my MBC, it runs exactly 5.5-6PSI max in 4th/5th gear.

2ndpink, those giant, rough ports have got to be causing all sorts of turbulence in the exhaust gas flow both through the wastegate and through the turbine. I wouldn't be surprised if your spool times are longer than with the stock setup. This could also be enough to restrict flow out of the external wastegate, which would explain why you still have creep at 38mm. As is, that whole semi-square chamber you created allows exhaust gas to flow back and forth between the 2 halves of the exhaust manifold, and the path isn't smooth. That kind of setup would probably work better on a S4 turbo (1 wg port), but smoothing things out / reducing the open space should help too.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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This thread has convinced me to get a BNR Stage 1 instead of porting my WG. It will solve my exhaust leak *when I put the new gasket on* and the random smoke that puffs out under boost, and the coolant leak. WOOO.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryRocket88
2ndpink, those giant, rough ports have got to be causing all sorts of turbulence in the exhaust gas flow both through the wastegate and through the turbine. I wouldn't be surprised if your spool times are longer than with the stock setup. This could also be enough to restrict flow out of the external wastegate, which would explain why you still have creep at 38mm. As is, that whole semi-square chamber you created allows exhaust gas to flow back and forth between the 2 halves of the exhaust manifold, and the path isn't smooth. That kind of setup would probably work better on a S4 turbo (1 wg port), but smoothing things out / reducing the open space should help too.
harrrsh. but true.

my exhaust size is ported as much as it could be and in combo with a 3" turbo back and highflow cat/muflers i get no spikes or overboosting. partly because my flapper door pushrod was disconnected for a few weeks. and i wondered why it hit 10 at 5500 hahaha
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryRocket88
I've got my S5 turbo ported to the equivalent area of a single 35mm, and I have no creep at all. 2.5+" open exhaust system. Without my MBC, it runs exactly 5.5-6PSI max in 4th/5th gear.

2ndpink, those giant, rough ports have got to be causing all sorts of turbulence in the exhaust gas flow both through the wastegate and through the turbine. I wouldn't be surprised if your spool times are longer than with the stock setup. This could also be enough to restrict flow out of the external wastegate, which would explain why you still have creep at 38mm. As is, that whole semi-square chamber you created allows exhaust gas to flow back and forth between the 2 halves of the exhaust manifold, and the path isn't smooth. That kind of setup would probably work better on a S4 turbo (1 wg port), but smoothing things out / reducing the open space should help too.

Its a 3" Down Pipe and exhaust. No cats. Also, my mistake on the "still not enough" I have a .9 bar spring (13psi) and boost happens fast! Kinda hard to drive on low throttle and stay below 1 or 2 psi (so the gate doesnt start to open and sound retarded loud)

Another thing, after the slits were on the exhaust will not pass 7 psi after 6,500 RPMs.


Originally Posted by gxl90rx7
you still creep?? how do BNRs do it with a 35mm port? i have no creep at all, 3" exhaust, 5.5psi steady
Again. My mistake.
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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I have full 3 inch exhaust. On the stock turbo in 3rd n + gears it creep to 9 psi.

I have a BNR stg4 boost controller off. 6 psi steady in all gears.
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