d_rotary_rocket_b

hey guys i just wanna know which engine would produce more horses if i had em all at stock and put about 2 -3 grand into them. so basically everything is constant cept for the engines.

i know T2 has 200bhp - 200lbs torque
N/A = 160bhp - 140lbs torque supercharger adds 25-35 to each??
13bre = ? -?

so my question again is if i put 2-3 grand into the 3 of these engins seperatly which engine would produce more hp, and the ratio to $-hp worth?

DocMazda

however, if you were looking for all horsepower/torque and not efficiency, then i would probly go for the 13bre. the stock tII is just kind of weak compared to the 13bre. The ports arent as large, it has a smaller compression ratio, and correct me if i am wrong, but i am sure the irons cant handle as much power (again, correct me if i am wrong). aside from that, the manifolds seem to be a little more efficient as far as flow is concerned. But, it will take you all of 3 grand to put one in anyway....i hear that turbo'd n/a's do pretty well...namely from the 5th and 6th ports that the tII engine only has 4. if youre lucky, the more experienced of the forum board may answer back and elaborate on anything. but, if i had the money, i would go 13bre.

d_rotary_rocket_b

thanks for the post, but what i meant from the 2-3 grand into the engines is to say. hypothetically speaking i already have those 3 engines installed and i want to put 2-3 grand seperate from the install, and to focus that 2-3 grand into just working on gaining performance

Cosmo_TT

iTrader: (11)

13bre stock = 230bhp yes twin turbo 13bre is going to be faster than single 13bt

Aaron Cake

iTrader: (1)

That question is impossible to answer. There are too many variables.

d_rotary_rocket_b

ok ok putting all things aside lets disregard the 13bre cause i know thats gonna come out on top, but as for the 13b supercharged or a 13bt....which one would i gain more hp for my money and have a higher top end hp

d_rotary_rocket_b

basically i want to juice my rx, but i dont wanna spend 10grand, so with a bank account of around 2-3 possibly 4, which engine would i be able to gain quicker 1/4 times and more hp

SonicRaT

iTrader: (6)

rebuilt 13BT, hybrid turbo.

Aaron Cake

iTrader: (1)

With $2000-$3000 Canadian, and based on the questions you are asking, I would say to go with the straightforward TII swap. The only issue is finding a parts car, or entire TII drivetrain.

d_rotary_rocket_b

thnks for the input guys, and whats a hybrid turbo?

Aaron Cake

iTrader: (1)

A turbo made from parts of two (or more) other turbochargers. Basically an easy to using components from the stock turbo (so it still bolts to the manifold) and other models (generally some form of the T4) to make a better turbo.

SidewaysFC

alan, with his supercharged vert just put down 230+ to the wheels

Jager

iTrader: (10)

With a Paxton blower. Sonik has already proven (for a cost) that a whipple supercharger can produce 300+, but the only current kit in production, the Camden kit. Has YET to put down more then 209HP I beleive (on this forum at least).

ultradef

I agree, this sounds like your best bet. Especially if you're rebuilding and porting the 13BT, the differences between the 13BT and the RE are negligible.