kel

Hey gang,
I'd like to hear your opinions on valuing a 10th AE RX. How would you figure out what a specific one is worth?

Looking forward to reading your ideas

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stylEmon

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miles, condition, stock-ness, accessories that were available from the dealer
Most are probably worth around 4-6k. There are a few out there that I'd consider paying 10-12k for

1SWEET7

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It depends on so many things. Great condition with low miles, maybe some reliability mods, maybe $5-7K on the high end, $2-4 on the low end I would say. KBB is pretty low I think.

stylEmon

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to get the most for a 10AE, mods would be undesirable.

1SWEET7

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That is very debatable, and completely opinionative.

jake1191

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How much would a borla cat back and a Greddy BOV knock down the price and the rest of the slight mods in my sig.? i might consider trading mine for a nice modded TII if i can find some one to trade with. That is after i get it painted. Interior is mint except for the seats(typical leather wear).

kel

Yes, I agree. That's why I said I'd like to hear your opinions

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daviddeep

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There's not a firmly established collector market for any Second Gen RX-7 yet. That said, the value of a 10AE will depend largely on the kind of interested buyer you can find. To someone looking to buy it as a "collectible," any non-reversible mods will knock off some value. Stuff like a cat-back exhaust isn't going to hurt the value much if any, especially a quality one like a Borla. Removing the emissions is also not a big deal assuming you didn't do anything to the car that would be hard to reverse like cutting up the wiring harness. Anyone looking at the car as a collectible probably would also pay less for it if it no longer has the original paint (you said your car needs paint).

Now if the buyer is planning to mod the car anyway, then well-done mods could be a plus if they are the kind of thing the buyer planned to do himself.

Bottom line, in my opinion, unless you're talking about a super-low mileage, near mint survivor, a 10AE is probably only worth a small premium over a comparable S4 TII.

mazdaverx713b

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an unmolested 10AE will be far more collectable and desireable than one that is modded. for a colector, unmolested cars are usually the gems of the collection. it really is a shame to see heavily modified 10AE's. i would never think of modifying my 10AE. i see the average 10AE selling for anywhere near 4K-5K and more for low mileage stock examples. having all of the correct 10AE specific parts is a HUGE selling point. if the car lacks the 10AE badges, the 10AE crystal white painted wheels, having cracked or missing bronze tinted glass or the momo shift ****/boot or 10AE steering wheel, the value can quickly wilt. having all of those items plus the 10AE floor mats, the 10AE pilllow, the 10AE bra, and documentation and maitenance records will add to the value very quickly. my opinion is that if you want to modify a TII, stick with a TII and leave the 10AE alone.

RRTEC

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Unless you have Very Very low miles the 10th AE typically do not demnd any more money then a S4 T2 in the same condition.

stylEmon

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Completely Agree

Disagree.

If we are talking about then the BEST way to raise the value of your 10AE is with a completely stock, low mileage, well maintained, heavily accessorized from the dealer, well documented car.

A collector will be the one to pay top dollar for any car. It's not an opinion, it's a tried and true formula. Collector cars that continually pull in the MOST money are stock, top model, documented car. Bottom line in the collector market.

If the car doesn't fit this formula, it won't be desirable to collectors unless they restore it. In that case, they will not pay YOU much at all for it.

Brismo7

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I have a friend that stuck an LS1 in a VERY CLEAN 10th AE. lol

made it 3x more valuable. hehe

stylEmon

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haha!! that and a 3 rotor are the other way to bring in 10k for an AE!
LOL

kel

Thank you for the detail. I do appreciate. Actually, I don't plan to mod the car, but it already has a few mods. i.e. exhaust, ported engine, aftermarket ECU. I'm trying to decide if the bottom-dollar price is a deal I want to take - it's going to stretch my budget a bit.
Outside the performance stuff, It looks original

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kel

Actually, I'm a potential buyer. It's right around $750 more than a standard TII that I'm also considering.

RRTEC

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If it is around $4,000 and it is pretty darn clean, it is probably worth picking up.. What are the miles on the chassis.?

kel

I believe around 115k

RRTEC

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I consider that higher miles as far as collectibles go.

12AllWays

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Your friend is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
<<<He can put that crap back where it belongs.

daviddeep

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Depends again on your perspective. As stylEmon mentioned above, a well-done engine conversion (such as an LS1 or 20B) would drive the value of a clean 10AE up above the level that even a hard-core collector would likely have been willing to pay for the car if it were 100% original. For example, a clean 100% original 10AE with 100K+ miles might bring $5000 or $6000 tops (probably less), but to someone looking for a well-done engine conversion, the LS1 car would probably be worth more. Granted, the originality (and therefore true "collector" interest) has been destroyed, but even putting in a rebuilt 13BT would reduce the originality. As I said above, there isn't a well-defined "collector" market for these cars yet, so in the marketplace, buyers may be more willing to spend the extra money for the modded car than for the original car.

For that matter while the 10AE was basically a planned collectible, any S5 Turbo is probably just about as rare or rarer for any given paint color or model year. If there were only 9,743 RX-7s of all trim levels sold in the U.S. in 1990 and 6,986 in 1991 (figures from "Mazda RX-7: Sports Car Color History" by John Matras), how many of those numbers were Turbos? How many Crystal White or Brave Blue '91s were there? Probably a lot less than 1500.

kel

David, thanks for the detailed reply. And thanks to all for your input, I do appreciate your thoughts.
Anyway, I closed the deal and will fly out to get the car on Friday and drive it home

Wish me luck!

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mazdaverx713b

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good luck. hope you get the car. make sure you post pics! i love the 10AE's!!!

daviddeep

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Best of luck; hope the car is nice and hope you get it. Looking forward to pictures.

Red95FD

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The historical significance is what will make the 10th AE worth more than other turbo FCs.
I paid 15K for a mint, 8K mile AE and turned it into a concours car. It should be worth more now. But only time will tell.

I also think a restored AE is worth more than a restored non AE turbo. Just my opinion though.

daviddeep

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If you could find an 8000 mile 1991 RX-7 Turbo today, I'd bet you'd have to pay $15,000+ for it as well. I haven't been watching eBay so closely this year, but back when I was shopping for a car in 2007 I remember a low mileage, mint '90 Turbo bringing about $13,000.

I agree that in time, a mint original or properly restored 10AE will probably bring more money than an equal condition TII/Turbo car because of its mystique and popularity. It will probably bring a similar premium as, say the 10th Anniversary 1980 280ZX Turbo does now.