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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Powdercoating project #1

I got this powdercoating system from HF for my birthday:



So I had to try it out. I don't recommend using your food-making oven. Go to craigslist or something and buy an old ugly oven that someone wants to unload, or do like I did and buy a new toaster oven and use the old one:




Let me tell you, it takes a little while to get the spray pattern just right. I (not knowing anything about how to do this) filled the gun full of powder, which made it just puke powder out. So if you get this gun, only fill the reservoir about 1/4 full. Clean the part REALLY well before coating it. Connect the ground lead to whatever you're coating. Hook up an air hose, pull the trigger and adjust the regulator **** until you get a regular spray pattern. The foot pedal is to apply the charge, so you push the pedal right before you spray. Preheat your oven to 400 degrees. Coat your piece lightly, then bake it for 20 minutes.


This.....



Becomes this...






This should cool things down a little. On a hot day, that steel ball would melt skin.
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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i've been wanting to get one of these things...only problem is i need a HUGE oven to do wheels and subframes with.
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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i love my powdercoating system. it works well, i never had any problems using the house oven (although you have to open up the house), but mine only does 16" wheels. i want a get a bigger oven for up to 18" wheels

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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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i love my powdercoating system. it works well, i never had any problems using the house oven (although you have to open up the house), but mine only does 16" wheels. i want a get a bigger oven for up to 18" wheels

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Wow, I would never use the same oven to powder coat and make food.
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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I was staring at that DIN plate for the longest time trying to figure out what was different. Then I saw the ****.

Looks good.
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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I was staring at that DIN plate for the longest time trying to figure out what was different. Then I saw the ****.

Looks good.
the DIN plate is plastic...
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
the DIN plate is plastic...
I realized this. Just never occurred to me to look at the shift ****.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by magus2222
i love my powdercoating system. it works well, i never had any problems using the house oven (although you have to open up the house), but mine only does 16" wheels. i want a get a bigger oven for up to 18" wheels

Lloyd
I busted out laughing as I read this, especially the "open up the house" part. This definitely tops all of the ghetto **** I've done for my car.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 05:02 AM
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pretty cool. try something bigger!! maybe you can get some brake calipers in that lil easy bake oven you have hehehe
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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I think we need to draw the line at putting tail lights in the oven

I dont find PC guys out of line with what they charge, I think its cheap actually compared to painting, but its cool to be able to do your own smaller parts.

I thought you had to sandblast your parts?
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
I think we need to draw the line at putting tail lights in the oven


I thought you had to sandblast your parts?
That's as far as I'll go too. Powdercoating leaves a smell that lingers.

And you don't have to sandblast prior to powdercoating. It's a good tool to have, and definitely good to do, but in order to powdercoat all you really need to do is clean the metal before attempting to coat it.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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Powdercoating project #2










I had the turbo off to:
1) Fix a manifold exhaust leak (nasty)
2) Fix the twin scroll system (if you have a FMIC and it doesn't work, it's garbage)
3) Port the wastegate (3" exhaust and stock turbo don't mix.... well, they will mix, at around 15psi)
4) Clean things up, powdercoating where possible... just to give me a reason to use the new gun some more.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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doesn't powdercoating melt like at 300 degrees f? and don't turbochargers get insanely hot?
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Meh... we'll see
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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just saying out of experience, i would ALWAYS tape up any kind of oriface or anything that has a hose that it connects to. idk why it is, but everytime that i have experienced someone who has powdercoated something and didnt tape up a hose fitting never got that fitting to stop leaking. be it vacuum, coolant, oil, w/e, i always tape that kind of stuff up.

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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 01:27 AM
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LOL, my first oven for PC oven was very similar to yours. Now i have a HF one that is about 18x18x18" its nice and I could probably do my wheels but i too long for a bigger oven. I've gotten pretty good at it redoing as many rusty parts as I can. I've got a nice little sandblaster that takes care of rust like a champ. Damn road salt.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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I saw that Harbor Frieght Oven. Thats tempting. I really wanna try this now.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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the cold side of the turbo will fine with the powdercoat, I have simple spray paint on mine
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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The oven's tempting?? That's an 18x18x18" oven, that costs $300+!! Why not get some old beat up stove that someone's trying to unload after renovating their kitchen? There's definitely no shortage of that!
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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What kind of sandblaster do have augiedogie? I'm looking at these little portable ones...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=30979

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=37025

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95667

Any good/bads?
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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just watch your compressor size, need good CFM to run a blaster
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I have one of the cabinates(sp?) that HF sells. Its not very good though and leaks like a ****. If I ever get back to a place that I can use it I'm going to build one outa MDF and make it almost airtight. The pot blasters will get you started nicely though, you just end up wasting a lot of media though.

As far as the oven, yes there are a lot of people using house ovens and they work very well. I needed to get it because i didn't have a 220 volt outlet in my workspace and I got a very good price on it. (Sometimes it pays that people are completely incompitant)

Powder by the pound has a GREAT forum on coating and there products are also quite nice.

And as Rob said you do need alot of air to run a blaster, and somthing to remove moisture will also help alot.
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Originally Posted by magus2222
i love my powdercoating system. it works well, i never had any problems using the house oven (although you have to open up the house), but mine only does 16" wheels. i want a get a bigger oven for up to 18" wheels

Lloyd
My friend got this same PC gun from Harbor Freight. Tried to powdercoat his rims in his oven at his house. We got the rims clean, got the powder on them. But heres where we messed up. We put the first rim in the oven. And walked outside to go smoke a cig or 2, doors on the house closed. While we were out there, his mom came home. This was my cue to leave. Today (actual today), a month later, he now lives in his own apartment. He actually finished doing the other 3 rims this past weekend in his apartment. His parents house still smells like PC.

Used Lime Green powder and rattle can clear.

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I have a pretty big blast cabinet and run if off a very large compressor, and it still can be a draw on the compressor, run it through 2 filters too.
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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see, that is where you fucked up, gotta open up the house.
my dad and i powdercoated most of my engine throughout the week, my mom only got pissed cause we were using her oven
"are you guys going to be done in time for me to make dinner?"
never had any problems, but then again, my father and i make everything from entertainment centers to a murphy bed we just finished, to my datsun race car that were building. just runs in the family
oh well, i still want a big *** oven, anyone know of a bigass one thats not 220v?

Lloyd
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