Juiceh

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I do have HIDs but haven't gotten around to installing them yet.

NJGreenBudd

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I just bought the conversion kit and tried a couple sets of housings until I found one that gave a decent pattern. I am aware it's not ideal but I don't even drive the car at night. I generally don't support hack job HID installs like mine as they can be dangerous or at least less than optimal, but this particular setup works fine, looks good and doesn't blind other drivers.

so what are you looking for? do you want to see HID systems from other cars fitted into the FC? like acura projectors or mercedes or something?

EJayCe996

That would be a "retrofit" and what I was expecting to find in this thread . I need to stop being lazy and buy a cheap set of housings to hack up and take measurements with my infiniti FX projectors.

NJGreenBudd

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Mine are D2S; D2R have added masking that is visible in the bulb itself, this was meant to reduce glare in the older housings when HIDs were being introduced.

D2S

D2R



I am gonna stick to what I have for right now but am open to either need-a-t2's style or another quality conversion to real projectors.

TTT, are you still using the H9 lows and HID highs with the need-a-t2 styled conversion?

E_Dub

This thread is full of fail. My Friend retrofitted Mazda 3 HID setups into his pop ups and this is the result. Not amazing cut off, but this is only the beginning of the experiment.
At least it has cut off...

NJGreenBudd

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That does look like a nice pattern, hopefully he can make it look a lot cleaner in the headlight itself - that other lamp in there looks terrible.

Hypertek

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id take offense to those saying this thread is fail or bitching about everyones setup.. Ill have to remember to call people out the next time a engine modification thread pops up since it is illegal in some states and bad for the environment when people rock test pipes etc.

At least everyone here has the right mind to aim the lights lower for glare..

Improved visibility > POS stock headlights. Glare shouldnt be a bad problem if you do it with caps on the hid bulbs and good housings.
Babies are not going to die, hell isnt gonna break loose and freeze over..

TTT your a knowledgeable guy here but no need to call people out on their decisions.

The raybrigs where the original "clear" 6054 housings...
No where near cheap, even Cibie and Hella headlights are cheaper. If you seen the light output of these in person with H4 halogen bulbs in there, perhaps the best headlights out there for 6054. Every other "clear" type is a copy or knock off of those.

6054 headlights are pretty much dead in automotive development... no more new production car uses them from what i recall. So everything from now on will be some modification job or put together. No company will spend $$$$$ to make dot approved 6054 hid lights.

TitaniumTT

OMFG!!!!!!!! REAL HID BULBS!!!!!!!!!! THUS FAR YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WITH REAL HIDS IN THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!

Yes, I am using Need-a-tii's kit with H9 lows and HID highs. The ballasts are all there when I finally do finish everything else off I'll be ordering the real Hella 90mm HID moduales for an actual DOT legal conversion. The Highs aren't legal, but they'll only be on when no one else is around so I'm not to concerned with blinding people.

TitaniumTT

Bravo sir, BRAVO. An actual HID retrofit.

TitaniumTT

Yeah I wouldn't go that far. Lets not forget the kid that posted up, **** everyone else, I can see

[quote=Hypertek;8867702]Improved visibility > POS stock headlights. Glare shouldnt be a bad problem if you do it with caps on the hid bulbs and good housings.
Babies are not going to die, hell isnt gonna break loose and freeze over..

Improved visibilty from a real conversion or H4 replacements without blinding ANYONE > stock sealed beams > POS rebases that let you see only strait infront of you a little better and blind all oncoming traffic.

Yeah there is, especially when people make the wrong decision and then give advice saying it's the greatest thing since the bulb was actually introduced. I'm willing to bet you'll get better visibility out of an H4 bulb in an H4 housing than an H4 rebase in an H4 housing. Better visibility means everyone on the road, not just 20 feet infront of yourself becuase they're so ridiculously bright. Not to mention that bright spot infront of you causes you to LOOSE your perefrial (sp) vision becuase of the difference in light. Brighter in one area means darker in the other.

Jeffc3s

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TitanumTT, the reason for this thread is to see people experimenting their ideas retro fitting HIDs in H4 and learn what setup works best for everybody. You seem to know alot about this, please post your setup and tell us about it.

francogt1

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+1

skoool us Mr. Retrofit goddess

NJGreenBudd

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he pretty much just told you what he was running and you can see pics of his car all of this forum.


you can see some of his setup in this thread about the dual oil coolers:
https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...26&postcount=2

Looks like a good dual bulb setup to me.

TitaniumTT

Jeez, you just don't get it. There was only ONE retrofit posted in this thread. A retrofit is when you take a LEGIT HID housing and make it fit in a non-HID housing. The only one in this thread was done by E-dub. The rest of you are taking illegal HID rebases and stuffing them in non HID housings. Period

I'm not going to post my setup becuase it's not a retrofit and I don't plan on running H9 rebased HID bulbs in my H9 housings. I plan on running Halogen H9 Bulbs

TitaniumTT

It's need-a-t2's daul Hella 90mm module half pop-up conversion.

Turbo II Rotor

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^ Which he needs to make more of BTW.

EJayCe996

I knew the harsh reality of TTT's words would ensue hilarity for me.

Zerkster

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I agree with what TitaniumTT is saying, I am one of those ******** that have way too bright of "fake" HID's? headlights. But for where I live, country and backroads, I couldnt see **** with factory sealed beams, fake blue bulbs, and dont have the money or resourses to retrofit so I did the Balast style HID:



Basically Im not trying to hit a Deer on a back country, no streetlight road.

TitaniumTT

- the HIDs are most likely NOT an improvement over the stock sealed beams.

Try something cheap and post your results.

Buy some Hella, Cibei, Bosch or some other H4 housing. Put some real bulbs into them such as these - http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1404 CP64206 and then report back as to which gives you better visibility. I posed the question to Rallylights - I need an H4 bulb that will let me see EVERYTHING on back country, non-lit roads in the northeast where deer, moose, bear etc are around. I want to see everything without blinding the oncoming traffic. That's what they recommended. I mentioned that 85/80 might not be bright enough. They said something along the lines of, we've never gotten a complaint from anyone and they'll be brighter throughout the beam than any other bulb you could put in there, especially some cheap HID rebase mainly becuase the cheap HID rebases tend to focus the light directly infront of you and ot off to the sides where you need it to aviod hitting the deer, moose, bear etc etc etc.

I can't comment on them becuase I haven't gotten them in the Jeep yet. They require some re-wiring and I want to do it all at the same time, I'm adding lights F&R on the roof

Zerkster

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Well post some pictures of when you get them installed on your Jeep, and also a price of what it all cost you.

TitaniumTT

It'll be MONTHS before that gets done. Can't take the Jeep off the road for weeks at a time in the winter to strip everything out to do some wiring with it snowing 2x/week

Cost is really nothing, Bulbs are $40 and housings are $40-50 each so a grand total of ~$120-$140 for what is presumably better lighting, LEGAL lighting, and at about 1/2 the cost of some e-bizzle HIDs. I don't understand why people just don't get it.

Zerkster

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Well thats not too bad. My Ebay HID's were only $80 or so and the housings were something like $10 so its not too expensive, as for legality, Ive been pulled over before and had nothing said about my headlights, or come to think about it the fact that my car smelled like a gas station

laserkei

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Are you talking about this one here?
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4283

TitaniumTT

Well, you've been lucky thus far or PA cops just don't care.

Basically yes, in reality I already have some ballasts so I only need the bulbs/capsules and the housings. Housings alone are
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1255.

But when you look at the price to do a REAL HID conversions ($1200 from Rally) or a retrofit (whatever you can buy OEM<- That's the key to a retrofit, actual OEM HIDs, on ebay for,) I see why people get cheap. I don't agree with it and I personally think it's a retarded waste of money.

EJayCe996

For realz, I'm gonna buy some replacement lenses for my FX35 projectors from a company that remanufactures the lenses but makes them completely clear instead. For those of you that don't know, depending on your luck of the draw you will get two, possibly three but still undetermined, different types of FX projectors: those with frosted lenses (reduced light output and cutoff clarity), and those with "clear" lenses but in actuality are still semi-frosted and have a "stepped" lens surface for lack of a better description. Just getting a pair of these lenses will just about cost me what I paid for the FX projector units. So the total for just the projectors and lenses alone is already ~300 and I got the projectors through a friend's friend at a deal. Ballasts/bulbs/wiring harness are probably gonna put the total costs modestly around $500. Paying someone to do this for you.... over 1000 easy.