FC worthiness in the next 5 years
12-31-11, 10:37 PM
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I've done a fair share of rust repair. Actually about to do some of my own 
And after seeing all the work in Jerry's thread, there's no doubt in my mind that anything can be polished haha
And after seeing all the work in Jerry's thread, there's no doubt in my mind that anything can be polished haha
01-03-12, 02:19 PM
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Hey, where at in Kentucky are you exactly? I'm in need of a fc shell... there are zero here.. Other than mine. and it is uhm not pretty.
01-03-12, 04:01 PM
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I dont see the FC ever going up in price and its because of the market...
SA- collectors buy em
FB- Puerto Ricans love them to build up
FC- Drift kids who dont have money want a drift ****
FD- True luxury/sport model with styling that majority of people like
Im not saying thats always the case but I rarely hear someone say they like the body of an FC, and the general population outside of import car guys think the FD had 500hp stock because of its rotary engine. FBs are light weight and have a good simple strong chassis, not sure why p.r. guys like them soo much but thats their taste and it makes a market for FBs.
For the FC you have kids who watched initial d and obviously if the best racer in the show had one then it must be the best... like the Eclipse in F&F1 and 2. How many of those did you see driving around after those movies came out, rollin wit dat mad *** wing and a cool air intake that gave em 400hp and an 8 in da quarter!!!
EDIT: I forgot F&F cars also needed 20in rims, airbag suspention, NOS, stickers, and a playstaion in dash in order to go fast!
This post may be stereotyping owners of certain cars but in all honesty its what other people prolly notice anyway.
EDIT EDIT: I need to quit reading the first page and then posting haha
SA- collectors buy em
FB- Puerto Ricans love them to build up
FC- Drift kids who dont have money want a drift ****
FD- True luxury/sport model with styling that majority of people like
Im not saying thats always the case but I rarely hear someone say they like the body of an FC, and the general population outside of import car guys think the FD had 500hp stock because of its rotary engine. FBs are light weight and have a good simple strong chassis, not sure why p.r. guys like them soo much but thats their taste and it makes a market for FBs.
For the FC you have kids who watched initial d and obviously if the best racer in the show had one then it must be the best... like the Eclipse in F&F1 and 2. How many of those did you see driving around after those movies came out, rollin wit dat mad *** wing and a cool air intake that gave em 400hp and an 8 in da quarter!!!
EDIT: I forgot F&F cars also needed 20in rims, airbag suspention, NOS, stickers, and a playstaion in dash in order to go fast!
This post may be stereotyping owners of certain cars but in all honesty its what other people prolly notice anyway.
EDIT EDIT: I need to quit reading the first page and then posting haha
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01-04-12, 01:11 PM
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honestly, i like my FC. if it only had paint. call me strange but i think a tastefully done FC matches the looks of a tastefully done FD and even an toss FB in there.
stock for stock, FD wins over all generations but even in stock form i don't gasp over an FD, the wheels are meh and the body semi plain. wheels, lowering and tasteful aero mods can make just about any damn car pop.
FD owners just have the rarity aspecy going for them IMO, that is all. the rest of the car is less reliable than any other RE model but it also made the most power. the car has less interior room and rattles more. so that is the great tradeoff for slightly better suspension and a more powerful less reliable engine? yeah... i'll wait for the drift **** FCs to all get parked into the wall.
problem with most is mentality, i find many FD owners on this site to be overbearing as if they really own a supercar. i do not consider the FD to be a supercar, it is just a semi rare sportscar that has retained it's value well, that is all! if they want to call their cars supercars then the corvette is a supercar as well.
a supercar to me is something that blows all other makes and models out of the water, yes you can turn any ordinary car into a supercar but the FD with it's modest 245hp hardly exploded into the category that made supercars even of that era where there were other light exotics making 400+whp at the time.
but do not read into any of this as me agreeing with the FC value. it's still a common baseball card in a large card collection. even if the others all get burned you still have to find the right buyer for it, the value will always be in the eye of the beholder for the common FC models not including an unmolested 10th AE.
for every other model, stock or not stock it doesn't matter. i'm not sure why so many people are using stock prime examples for value basis here. do i think my rather highly modded TII will be worth less than a 100% stock similar mileage TII? no i do not. with any car, whenever you mod it you ALWAYS eat the price of mods unless you plan on expecting to part the car out and put it back to stock, that is the difference.
stock for stock, FD wins over all generations but even in stock form i don't gasp over an FD, the wheels are meh and the body semi plain. wheels, lowering and tasteful aero mods can make just about any damn car pop.
FD owners just have the rarity aspecy going for them IMO, that is all. the rest of the car is less reliable than any other RE model but it also made the most power. the car has less interior room and rattles more. so that is the great tradeoff for slightly better suspension and a more powerful less reliable engine? yeah... i'll wait for the drift **** FCs to all get parked into the wall.
problem with most is mentality, i find many FD owners on this site to be overbearing as if they really own a supercar. i do not consider the FD to be a supercar, it is just a semi rare sportscar that has retained it's value well, that is all! if they want to call their cars supercars then the corvette is a supercar as well.
a supercar to me is something that blows all other makes and models out of the water, yes you can turn any ordinary car into a supercar but the FD with it's modest 245hp hardly exploded into the category that made supercars even of that era where there were other light exotics making 400+whp at the time.
but do not read into any of this as me agreeing with the FC value. it's still a common baseball card in a large card collection. even if the others all get burned you still have to find the right buyer for it, the value will always be in the eye of the beholder for the common FC models not including an unmolested 10th AE.
for every other model, stock or not stock it doesn't matter. i'm not sure why so many people are using stock prime examples for value basis here. do i think my rather highly modded TII will be worth less than a 100% stock similar mileage TII? no i do not. with any car, whenever you mod it you ALWAYS eat the price of mods unless you plan on expecting to part the car out and put it back to stock, that is the difference.
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01-04-12, 05:51 PM
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my old neighbor is a sculpture teacher, and he pointed out the FC is pure muscle car, and he's right. his car is a 10AE with S5 tails and its lowered 1", and it looks badass.
i agree with you about the FD people, well it used to be that way, but the kids who have the cars now just like it cause its mad tight or something.
the FD actually IS a supercar, imo, especially among its peer group, the Z32 is a fat hog, the stealth is a fatter hog, the supra looks like a whale stock...
and not to brag, but my FD with just a DP was enough to take a then new E46 M3, and a bunch of other cars, put an IC and a chip in it and you can go romp on vipers and F360 Ferarri's... its not bad!
granted my neighbors FC has a larger turbo, IC, and 3" exhaust with a cat, and at 100mph he pulls on C5 Z06's....
i also think the modded VS stock thing is odd for an FC, a stock T2 isn't that great, its much improved with an exhaust for example. whereas modded FD's kind of suck, sure its fast in a straight line, but then you have to watch the 64 gauges to make sure the battery didn't overheat, and that just sucks all the fun out of it....
i agree with you about the FD people, well it used to be that way, but the kids who have the cars now just like it cause its mad tight or something.
the FD actually IS a supercar, imo, especially among its peer group, the Z32 is a fat hog, the stealth is a fatter hog, the supra looks like a whale stock...
and not to brag, but my FD with just a DP was enough to take a then new E46 M3, and a bunch of other cars, put an IC and a chip in it and you can go romp on vipers and F360 Ferarri's... its not bad!
granted my neighbors FC has a larger turbo, IC, and 3" exhaust with a cat, and at 100mph he pulls on C5 Z06's....
i also think the modded VS stock thing is odd for an FC, a stock T2 isn't that great, its much improved with an exhaust for example. whereas modded FD's kind of suck, sure its fast in a straight line, but then you have to watch the 64 gauges to make sure the battery didn't overheat, and that just sucks all the fun out of it....
04-17-12, 12:18 PM
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There's going to be a few factors at work in determining FC value five years from now.
First, I see a lot of current FC owners try to do things as cheap as possible. There are some beat to hell RX-7s out there. There really aren't many clean versions of FCs still out there.
Value and collectability are going to go hand in hand. If the car isn't collectible, it's not going to have any value. If the FC was/is going to become collectible, it should be happening right now. Usually, people collect the things they wanted when they were young and couldn't afford them. People who wanted FCs when they were younger should be able to afford them now. Maybe it's just going to take a little longer.
One thing working against FCs, and all RX-7s, is the lack of aftermarket parts made to replicate OEM parts. There's virtually nothing out there. The OEM part supply is already drying up from Mazda and there needs to be pieces to repair all the beat up FCs.
I think ultimate FC value won't be realized for another 10 years or so. Over the next five years, I would say value will go up slightly.
First, I see a lot of current FC owners try to do things as cheap as possible. There are some beat to hell RX-7s out there. There really aren't many clean versions of FCs still out there.
Value and collectability are going to go hand in hand. If the car isn't collectible, it's not going to have any value. If the FC was/is going to become collectible, it should be happening right now. Usually, people collect the things they wanted when they were young and couldn't afford them. People who wanted FCs when they were younger should be able to afford them now. Maybe it's just going to take a little longer.
One thing working against FCs, and all RX-7s, is the lack of aftermarket parts made to replicate OEM parts. There's virtually nothing out there. The OEM part supply is already drying up from Mazda and there needs to be pieces to repair all the beat up FCs.
I think ultimate FC value won't be realized for another 10 years or so. Over the next five years, I would say value will go up slightly.
04-18-12, 01:34 PM
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hope these pictures give it justice as i said 20,000 miles on clock
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04-19-12, 10:38 AM
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That's a very clean car. There only appear to be a few surface rust issues in the engine bay. I like the almost single DIN stock radio; it looks like you've added an auxiliary input to it. I'd definitely do everything I could to keep that car looking that way.
Given your location though, it's probably just about impossible for us to place a value on your car. Local markets play a big role.
Given your location though, it's probably just about impossible for us to place a value on your car. Local markets play a big role.
04-19-12, 10:44 AM
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Agreed, the FC is almost the red-headed step-child of the RX-7 community. As has been pointed out by others though, they are great enthusiast cars that are very cost effective if kept in good condition. They aren't as "pure" as the other RX-7s were, but they are still a lot of fun. Keep them as clean as possible, drive them and enjoy them.
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That's a very clean car. There only appear to be a few surface rust issues in the engine bay. I like the almost single DIN stock radio; it looks like you've added an auxiliary input to it. I'd definitely do everything I could to keep that car looking that way.
Given your location though, it's probably just about impossible for us to place a value on your car. Local markets play a big role.
Given your location though, it's probably just about impossible for us to place a value on your car. Local markets play a big role.
04-19-12, 03:14 PM
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The FD isn't, the M3 and F360 are no supercars either.
The FD has only the weight advantage
I smoked an F360 too, in my FC. Also an M3 and the newest RS5.
Those cars are in the same ballpark, but far from supercars..
Guy here at the Dutch club has a 20B FD built by Petit.
He smokes gallardo's..
Those are supercars, but only on the low end of the supercar range.
But that doesnt mean his FD is a supercar, although it does handle like one because of the easy power and loads of low-end torque which you will never accomplish with a 2rotor.
A 2rotor with supercar performance will pretty much always be a twitchy venomous beast, which is not the character of a supercar
04-19-12, 04:53 PM
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hope these pictures give it justice as i said 20,000 miles on clock
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hope these pictures give it justice as i said 20,000 miles on clock
04-19-12, 05:18 PM
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I say rx7's in general are supercars there isnt another engine like it. And for an engine that small it makes big brand name car run for the money.
04-20-12, 09:39 PM
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The FC is cool but in the 80's people hated them because of the looks being porsche like... 924 go on you tube and type rx7 vs 924 theres on old top gear episode. FC looked hella clean brand new... things we'll never ever see. if you watch the video you'll gain more respect for your FC, don'y count it out its still a timeless car.
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