Sgtbaker

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So for as long as I have had my vert the driver side window doesn't work. I finally got around to fixing the mangled cable that was around the gears. I respooled it and it worked for several times without a issue. Then it got all messed up again. So I took it apart and fixed it once again this time making sure that everything was perfect. I then tested it again and it worked so I put the whole assembly back into the door. Working inside of the door is a PITA btw. When I put my door card back in I tested it and it immediately fucked up. And now my passenger side is starting to move really really sluggish.

Basically I was wondering if anyone has had experience retrofitting a coupe regulator (or any other window regulator for that matter) into a convertible. I don't want to mess around with stupid poorly designed tension wires anymore. They will just break again in the near future imo.

magus2222

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unfortunately, i think the vert regulators only work in verts. and coupes in coupes. you can try making it manual if you want.

Lloyd

just startn

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The originals in my car are slow. I have new ones but have yet to see if they work bc my car is not put together. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to make them manual windows! I might try and R&D something

magus2222

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there is a ton of aftermarket window kits you can try. the electric ones arent half bad anymore

Lloyd

Sgtbaker

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Yea I was thinking about the aftermarket electric kits but was hoping to find a cheap junkyard alternative. No job= No $

DC 91 fc3s

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+1 for sluggish windows =(

JustJeff

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I've got all kinds of experience with vert window regulators. I've replaced a few. I've repaired one. and I've prevented a few from breaking.

Here's my take on what breaks on them. There are plastic runners on either end of the regulator. All of the ones I've had break (My father and I have owned 4 different verts between us) have had one of those end break and that prevents the cable from moving and the whole thing binds up.

The top part of the channel where the silver cable guide is will break.


Or this piece breaks on the opposite end


Here's my take on what happens. The bracket that holds the window and is pulled up and down by the cables is lubed and needs to stay that way. When your window gets sluggish it's because that bracket is no longer sliding in it's guide channel easily. That puts extra strain on the two ends of the regulator in the pictures above as well as the motor having to run longer to get the slow window up. Eventually one of those two plastic pieces snaps under the strain. Then your window goes from sluggish to cables bound and not moving at all. Either that or the motor burns out from having to run longer.

Here's the bracket that holds your window


Here's the part that run up and down in the guide channel that needs to stay lubed


There it is in the channel


I've had a couple sluggish windows that ended up broken. Putting used regulators with similar years of wear on them ends up with a short lifespan for the replacement part. What I noticed is that when I did preventative maintenance when they got sluggish they would not break. It's always been a one time maintenance that I've never had to do over. Take the regulator out of the door and smear that channel with axle grease. Every time I've done that the window comes back to life. Hell come to think of it...I might have even been able to do it with the regulator still in the door. It's been so long since I've done it that I forget.

I have repaired one regulator after it broke but it was such a PITA that I doubt I'll ever do it again. It's a long tedious process and if you don't get the cables tight enough they instantly bind back up and ruins the cable you just replaced.

JustJeff

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BTW I haven't gotten a reply back from you about swapping lips....I'm assuming the deal is dead because of shipping costs?

Rob XX 7

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i was going to say its the plastic guides, I had contacted a company to make them but they wanted me to make like 1000 or something, lol

hoping one day someone comes up a magical replacement part from some common vehicle, but I doubt it

good tip on the grease though, I should grease mine up, I have already replaced the drivers side and the guide was mangled

what kind of grease is that anyhow?

just startn

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My guides are fine. I always pack tons of grease in my tracks and any moving part. I took them out, put them side-by-side to the newer regulators and hooked a batt. up to both. The new ones went up extremely fast and i could not hold it back with my hand. Another thing i noticed when i was messing with a coupe; Every time i tightend the bolts up (can't remeber witch ones) the window would get much slower. So i just put some lock tight on the threads and just snugged them. The windows flew up like they were new. I would love to have manual windows.

JustJeff

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I was fortunate in that I had a broken regulator I saved. The one I saved had broken where the first picture was. The one I was using when it broke broke on the opposite end. The "U shaped plastic piece broke. I was able to scavenge that piece. It just clips in place. As I remember it the piece in the first pic is not so easy to replace.

What I had thought of doing before seeing I could take from peter to pay paul was using a small pulley wheel. As long as it sits low enough to allow for the window guide it would work. But this is all going by memory from a few years ago.

One thing I do remember is the bracket that holds the window. That piece that slides in the guide is a metal stud with either rubber or plastic molded around it. If that breaks then the stud it mounts on is not wide enough to fit in the guide of the regulator. I imagine that if that happens it wouldn't be too hard to find a grommet to fit onto the stud.

I don't remember the brand of grease I used. It's the same stuff you use to pack wheel bearings.

Check to see if the slow one is missing that plastic or rubber molding around that stud on the window bracket. The only other thing I can think of is that the actual motor is dying. But all my regulators have responded like night and day to greasing that channel.

I can't speak on coupe regulators. I've never owned a coupe. But I do remember that the regulators are completely different animals.