What EMS are u running

Old Jan 13, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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What EMS are u running

I am seriously concidering taking on a 20b project and i would like to know what type of EMS's are you guys using to cotrole your 20B's.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 02:13 AM
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I would buy a Microtech MTX-12. It's a great choice regardless of price, and to top it off it's cheaper than most others!
Other good ones are Wolf 4's, Autronic, and Motec (ultimate, and ultimate $$$ too)
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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Re: What EMS are u running

MicroTech MTX-12 with 20B Cosmo stock coils.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 06:47 AM
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Haltech E11


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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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e11 here, it runs great, super smooth, gets acceptible gas mileage (18hwy), and hopefully soon here will pass the california smog test
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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thanks guys
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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e11 here, it runs great, super smooth, gets acceptible gas mileage (18hwy), and hopefully soon here will pass the california smog test
NO WAY!! you are getting 18mpg on the highway??? thats definatly daily driver range! i think you will have a hard time legaly passing smog... even if you pass sniff, and dyno, you wont pass visual. youll have to find a "hook up" cheapest ive seen is $200... heath
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 12:59 AM
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NO WAY!! you are getting 18mpg on the highway??? thats definatly daily driver range! i think you will have a hard time legaly passing smog... even if you pass sniff, and dyno, you wont pass visual. youll have to find a "hook up" cheapest ive seen is $200... heath
my smog guy is blind
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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Damn I'm glad they don't smog here in west Texas.
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 05:20 AM
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NO WAY!! you are getting 18mpg on the highway??? thats definatly daily driver range!
Boy, people doubt the abilities of the Haltech (E11)...


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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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Boy, people doubt the abilities of the Haltech (E11)...


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i think i could maybe get a little more. theres room to run it a tad leaner (seths is like 15.6afr and mine is like high 14's), i think a lower trailing split would also help (i'm at 10 degrees, zero might be better) also i have short tires so i'm seeing higher rpms than i could/should.

and then i can do the honda vx civic stuff like block off the radiator, lighten the car more, get rid of stuff like the antenna, etc etc

i was happy with 18 though, thats only 1 gas stop on the way to sevenstock, instead of 3@11mpg
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Originally posted by j9fd3s
i think i could maybe get a little more. theres room to run it a tad leaner (seths is like 15.6afr and mine is like high 14's), i think a lower trailing split would also help (i'm at 10 degrees, zero might be better) also i have short tires so i'm seeing higher rpms than i could/should.

and then i can do the honda vx civic stuff like block off the radiator, lighten the car more, get rid of stuff like the antenna, etc etc

i was happy with 18 though, thats only 1 gas stop on the way to sevenstock, instead of 3@11mpg
so 2 tanks to LA? thats pretty damn good.... it took me 2 tanks each way with a subaru outback when i visited Dcrosby for some parts last month. as far as your blind smog guy.... maybe if i ever get done with this 20b project you can introduce me to him
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so 2 tanks to LA? thats pretty damn good.... it took me 2 tanks each way with a subaru outback when i visited Dcrosby for some parts last month. as far as your blind smog guy.... maybe if i ever get done with this 20b project you can introduce me to him
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yeah no problem, as long as it looks sorta stock its usually good enough
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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so 2 tanks to LA? thats pretty damn good.... it took me 2 tanks each way with a subaru outback when i visited Dcrosby for some parts last month. as far as your blind smog guy.... maybe if i ever get done with this 20b project you can introduce me to him
later, heath
yeah no problem, as long as it looks sorta stock its usually good enough
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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wow i need to tell my friend about this cuz he has a e11 with a 20b

u think i would be better off getting the e11 for my 13b-re or e6k? i know it's not a 20b questiuon but i hear ya good ted
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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ok i just put the cat on and it makes wierd smells, anyone?
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 05:37 AM
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wow i need to tell my friend about this cuz he has a e11 with a 20b

u think i would be better off getting the e11 for my 13b-re or e6k? i know it's not a 20b questiuon but i hear ya good ted
The E6K/E6X is sufficient.
I still think the E11 is still buggy, as we haven't heard confirmation the aux outputs work correctly (we can't turn them off yet).

The E11 gives you more outputs (that haven't worked for us yet) and a little more fancy control (independent true split trailing map, 3D boost control, full sequential on rotary, etc.), but it's not necessary for minimal rotary engine control.


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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 05:38 AM
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ok i just put the cat on and it makes wierd smells, anyone?
You guys got a wide-band, right?
Try and check the AFR's.
Sometimes extra backpressure causes the AFR's to run rich, and that will give you a weird smell...


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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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The E6K/E6X is sufficient.
I still think the E11 is still buggy, as we haven't heard confirmation the aux outputs work correctly (we can't turn them off yet).

The E11 gives you more outputs (that haven't worked for us yet) and a little more fancy control (independent true split trailing map, 3D boost control, full sequential on rotary, etc.), but it's not necessary for minimal rotary engine control.


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play with the v2 its better, mine all work as advertised
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Originally posted by RETed
The E6K/E6X is sufficient.
I still think the E11 is still buggy, as we haven't heard confirmation the aux outputs work correctly (we can't turn them off yet).

The E11 gives you more outputs (that haven't worked for us yet) and a little more fancy control (independent true split trailing map, 3D boost control, full sequential on rotary, etc.), but it's not necessary for minimal rotary engine control.


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oohhh i didnt know it could control sequential!!!!! hehe i know its stupid but i really want to have BNR do the twins and use them in sequential.... maybe its possible now, and having split @ low RPM's will be nice too! only problem is finding someone that can tune all of this properly without blowing up my poor motor!!!
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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oohhh i didnt know it could control sequential!!!!! hehe i know its stupid but i really want to have BNR do the twins and use them in sequential.... maybe its possible now, and having split @ low RPM's will be nice too! only problem is finding someone that can tune all of this properly without blowing up my poor motor!!!
mines not blown
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play with the v2 its better, mine all work as advertised
Oh that sucks!



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thanks man so what you'er sayin is that i should go wit the never version of e6kor e6x or sumthin that will be good?
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thanks man so what you'er sayin is that i should go wit the never version of e6kor e6x or sumthin that will be good?
i say e11, the e6 runs like poo in comparison
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