cosmo importation
11-11-03, 12:23 AM
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Talk to 3rotor. He lives in Washington state & has that one & only JC Cosmo registered in the USA (as far as I know)
Its going to be very tough if you do decide to try.
REgards
Its going to be very tough if you do decide to try.
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11-11-03, 08:02 AM
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Currently, there is no provision to import a JC Cosmo into the U.S. I have been working closely with the DOT for over a year on another exception. My application and request will go in front of the next board (which has new memberhsip) and I have at least one supporter that will be pitching the idea. However, even if my application is approved, there is still the EPA - which could be a ball buster. I may be shooting myself in the foot (by loosing the distinction of the only one in the U.S.), but I truly believe that they belong here. BTW, my request would limit ownership and operating conditions. You would have to be willing to own the car for twenty years (i.e., you couldn't sell it to anyone) and you could only operate it 2500 miles per year - subject to annual inspection. So even if I get the path cleared for everyone, I doubt many people are going to be willing to play by the required rules.
11-11-03, 11:52 PM
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Originally posted by Jeff20B
Why is there so much red tape? Is it just an effort to keep people from doing it?
Why is there so much red tape? Is it just an effort to keep people from doing it?
, they don't want you to have something that isn't readily available here in the U.S.PLUS - you got ALL these DAMM tree huggers that have a lot of political influence. I still don't know the reasoning behind DEQ here in OREGON or Washington. I've been to the Bay area and L.A. <- they need it there, but not here
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11-12-03, 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by 3Rotor
Currently, there is no provision to import a JC Cosmo into the U.S. I have been working closely with the DOT for over a year on another exception. My application and request will go in front of the next board (which has new memberhsip) and I have at least one supporter that will be pitching the idea. However, even if my application is approved, there is still the EPA - which could be a ball buster. I may be shooting myself in the foot (by loosing the distinction of the only one in the U.S.), but I truly believe that they belong here. BTW, my request would limit ownership and operating conditions. You would have to be willing to own the car for twenty years (i.e., you couldn't sell it to anyone) and you could only operate it 2500 miles per year - subject to annual inspection. So even if I get the path cleared for everyone, I doubt many people are going to be willing to play by the required rules.
Currently, there is no provision to import a JC Cosmo into the U.S. I have been working closely with the DOT for over a year on another exception. My application and request will go in front of the next board (which has new memberhsip) and I have at least one supporter that will be pitching the idea. However, even if my application is approved, there is still the EPA - which could be a ball buster. I may be shooting myself in the foot (by loosing the distinction of the only one in the U.S.), but I truly believe that they belong here. BTW, my request would limit ownership and operating conditions. You would have to be willing to own the car for twenty years (i.e., you couldn't sell it to anyone) and you could only operate it 2500 miles per year - subject to annual inspection. So even if I get the path cleared for everyone, I doubt many people are going to be willing to play by the required rules.
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I'd stick to the rules ,I also think they should be here thats f#$%ed up motorex brings in skylines no problem which will probably be used for illegal racing anyway but no can't bring a nice car thats unamerican.....
11-13-03, 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by LVRX7
its so dissapointing maybe all just buy all the seperate parts and build one ,secretly of course how much did you pay for your jc anyway?
its so dissapointing maybe all just buy all the seperate parts and build one ,secretly of course how much did you pay for your jc anyway?
11-13-03, 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by 88fc3sw/HX83
If you were seriously interested in buying that COSMO that 3rotor bought, you should have been looking. I saw that COSMO listed for sale about a year ago on thepartstrader.com. It was from someone in Hollywood FL. I think it was selling for $10-20K or something like that.
If you were seriously interested in buying that COSMO that 3rotor bought, you should have been looking. I saw that COSMO listed for sale about a year ago on thepartstrader.com. It was from someone in Hollywood FL. I think it was selling for $10-20K or something like that.
3rotor, how much do you anticipate one to cost assuming your efforts come through? (probably too early to tell, but what the heck)
11-13-03, 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by neofreak
I tried to buy it from him, but he'd never give me a straight answer about anything, so it sounded too fishy to believe.. and I was quoted 30k, so I didn't bother.
3rotor, how much do you anticipate one to cost assuming your efforts come through? (probably too early to tell, but what the heck)
I tried to buy it from him, but he'd never give me a straight answer about anything, so it sounded too fishy to believe.. and I was quoted 30k, so I didn't bother.
3rotor, how much do you anticipate one to cost assuming your efforts come through? (probably too early to tell, but what the heck)
Most I ever sold a JC Cosmo for was AUS $40k.
11-13-03, 07:56 AM
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Based upon what I have seen at DMRH and on some Japanese web sites, you can find a nice quality, low mileage JC Cosmo for $15,000 - $22,000 U.S. (including the cost of shipping to the U.S. Then there is the importation paperwork and bonds, EPA testing, etc. BTW, this exception is for Series II cars with a 20B only. To be added to the list, a car must meet certain criteria. It has to be historically significant, and had to be produced in limited quantity. I prepared a multi page proposal full of facts and pictures. The only JC model that meets the criteria is the Series II 20B. That will narrow the search, may make it a bit harder, but we would end up with a nicer car. Also, IF all this goes thorugh, we would need to find a low mileage unmoddified cars to make EPA easier. My guess is the car would = Cost of car + $5000 for shipping, bonds, and testing.
11-13-03, 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by 3Rotor
Based upon what I have seen at DMRH and on some Japanese web sites, you can find a nice quality, low mileage JC Cosmo for $15,000 - $22,000 U.S. (including the cost of shipping to the U.S. Then there is the importation paperwork and bonds, EPA testing, etc. BTW, this exception is for Series II cars with a 20B only. To be added to the list, a car must meet certain criteria. It has to be historically significant, and had to be produced in limited quantity. I prepared a multi page proposal full of facts and pictures. The only JC model that meets the criteria is the Series II 20B. That will narrow the search, may make it a bit harder, but we would end up with a nicer car. Also, IF all this goes thorugh, we would need to find a low mileage unmoddified cars to make EPA easier. My guess is the car would = Cost of car + $5000 for shipping, bonds, and testing.
Based upon what I have seen at DMRH and on some Japanese web sites, you can find a nice quality, low mileage JC Cosmo for $15,000 - $22,000 U.S. (including the cost of shipping to the U.S. Then there is the importation paperwork and bonds, EPA testing, etc. BTW, this exception is for Series II cars with a 20B only. To be added to the list, a car must meet certain criteria. It has to be historically significant, and had to be produced in limited quantity. I prepared a multi page proposal full of facts and pictures. The only JC model that meets the criteria is the Series II 20B. That will narrow the search, may make it a bit harder, but we would end up with a nicer car. Also, IF all this goes thorugh, we would need to find a low mileage unmoddified cars to make EPA easier. My guess is the car would = Cost of car + $5000 for shipping, bonds, and testing.
11-13-03, 12:45 PM
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"The only JC model that meets the criteria is the Series II 20B. That will narrow the search, may make it a bit harder."
A BIT harder? According to the DMRH homepage only 369 Series II 20B were made, compared to 3,568 Series I 20B (if I understand the distinction between Series I and II correct).
To me there is no difference between the two series. And in case there was, I would consider the first cars produced the most historic. But perhaps 3,568 isn't a small number.
BR, Bo
A BIT harder? According to the DMRH homepage only 369 Series II 20B were made, compared to 3,568 Series I 20B (if I understand the distinction between Series I and II correct).
To me there is no difference between the two series. And in case there was, I would consider the first cars produced the most historic. But perhaps 3,568 isn't a small number.
BR, Bo
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Originally posted by 3Rotor
The car HAS to number less than 500. I didn't make up the rule - it's our government. I'm not going to argue, just work the system!!
The car HAS to number less than 500. I didn't make up the rule - it's our government. I'm not going to argue, just work the system!!
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DMRH, I think the Cosmo I own is probably the mosts exspensive Cosmo sold out sid eof Japan. It was imported in NZ new in 1991, first officialy registered with 1274km on the clock. I saw it for sale by a mazda dealer for $125K back in 1991. not sure what it did sell for, but I would say over $100K!
Funnily, I payed $5K for it 10 years later lol
You can buy a tidy 20B JC Cosmo here in NZ for around NZ $15k, freight to US is NZ$5K
I will happily sell my 5 speed rebuilt 20B JC Cosmo for US$25K and freight it to anyone whos willing to pay for it
Funnily, I payed $5K for it 10 years later lol
You can buy a tidy 20B JC Cosmo here in NZ for around NZ $15k, freight to US is NZ$5K
I will happily sell my 5 speed rebuilt 20B JC Cosmo for US$25K and freight it to anyone whos willing to pay for it
11-27-03, 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by Bitchn7
DMRH, I think the Cosmo I own is probably the mosts exspensive Cosmo sold out sid eof Japan. It was imported in NZ new in 1991, first officialy registered with 1274km on the clock. I saw it for sale by a mazda dealer for $125K back in 1991. not sure what it did sell for, but I would say over $100K!
Funnily, I payed $5K for it 10 years later lol
You can buy a tidy 20B JC Cosmo here in NZ for around NZ $15k, freight to US is NZ$5K
I will happily sell my 5 speed rebuilt 20B JC Cosmo for US$25K and freight it to anyone whos willing to pay for it
DMRH, I think the Cosmo I own is probably the mosts exspensive Cosmo sold out sid eof Japan. It was imported in NZ new in 1991, first officialy registered with 1274km on the clock. I saw it for sale by a mazda dealer for $125K back in 1991. not sure what it did sell for, but I would say over $100K!
Funnily, I payed $5K for it 10 years later lol
You can buy a tidy 20B JC Cosmo here in NZ for around NZ $15k, freight to US is NZ$5K
I will happily sell my 5 speed rebuilt 20B JC Cosmo for US$25K and freight it to anyone whos willing to pay for it
Unfortunately, the (known) crook I heard it from meant I didn't believe it until the president of the NZ Mazda club told me himself. You indeed have a rare Cosmo.
I know that my one is rare too, JCES-100190 (series-II #190/369 sold)
11-27-03, 07:16 AM
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Good Lord... that's it... I'm moving to Australia or NZ.
DMRH... your sig is just SICK! When do you find time to work owning those 3 gems. I'd be either driving or pan-handling for gas money full time if I owed those 3 classics. Impressive!!!
DMRH... your sig is just SICK! When do you find time to work owning those 3 gems. I'd be either driving or pan-handling for gas money full time if I owed those 3 classics. Impressive!!!