20B to T56 bellhousing question

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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:10 PM
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Old Nov 6, 2015 | 12:21 PM
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Quick time is making a bell housing for the 13B/20B and T56:

Quick Time Bellhousing RM-4091, Quick Time Mazda Engine Adapter Bellhousings | Quick Time Bellhousing
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Old Nov 6, 2015 | 08:02 PM
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I have been in discussion with QuickTime about this item and found out that their parent company, Lakewood Industries is VERY lacking in the service department. When I pointed out several statements they made are not correct, such as the housing having no provision for ANY RX7 Slave Cylinder, they connected me directly to the person who engineered the housing. After a few talks with him via email and on the phone, we finally got the full story on the RM-4091.

Slave Cylinder is LS1 Camaro, Clutch would be 7.25" LS1 style (such as one from Tilton), flywheel is a Mazdatrix "hardcore" flywheel, NF01 Starter and so on. Last, I will be as straightforward as possible with the following statement:

EVERYTHING CURRENTLY KNOWN OR SAID HERE ABOUT THE T56 IS ABOUT THE LS1 F-BODY/GTO VERSIONS. THE LT1 VERSION IN 93-97 F-BODIES IS CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT THAN THE LS1 T56, SAME WITH THE MUSTANG COBRA T56.

Internally, the differences are negligible and do not affect power handling capability. The most notable change is the Triple Synchro setup that the GTO uses, originally implemented on the Corvette T56. Since there is quite a bit of ground to cover, I will be authoring a T56 FAQ in the near future.

As of a few days ago, I presented Ross at Lakewood some design specifications which account for the differences between LS1 and LT1 T56s and he was quite impressed and agreed to give it a try to see how well my ideas will work.
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Old Nov 7, 2015 | 11:54 AM
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I was the one that started this project to create the bellhousing with Quicktime many years ago that is why it exist. The purpose of the project was to have a full bolt on kit to make sure its a very easy installion made for the FD. it has taken me many years to develop it and to make sure its as easy as possible for installation. Its not as easy to just bolt on a Quicktime bellhousing specially to a use t56 because when i was doing my research most cars that come with t56 are not purchase as cruisers they usually are beaten up so most of the people that i talked to that had done conversion including one of my friend spent a lot of money ones he installed it because it broke a couple of month after installation. they are only good for 450 Torque plus most of them had a hard life. that is why i decided to go with the t56 magnum because its a better transmission and it replaced the t56. Its new and with warranty the only problem is that the t56 magnum relocates the shifting point forward in the transmission and that is a problem because then we would need to extended back 6 inches to be able to come out in the stock hole for the FD unless you have your engine moved back which i dont. that its why i started working with RSgear and they were able to custom make a t56 magnum and upgrade it at the same time to be able to handle 850 torque brand new with warranty. it has even better carbon synchros than the t56 magnum. so its a better solution for our problem. in addition i also worked with a clutch company to have a clutch kit with everything we would need to make the conversion. at this time the clutch kit, transmission, and bellhousing are available. im havent had a chance to install transmission on the car because i been very busy but with holiday coming soon i think i should be able to squeeze it in. if anybody has any questions feel free to PM me.


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Old Nov 30, 2015 | 01:03 PM
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Guys, I've heard that Addicted Performance sells a kit that consists of an Adapter plate to utilize manual bell housing. You can retain the stock T/o bearing design, and all you need is a clutch that is resplined to 26 spline.


GTO trans w/ GTO shifter should bolt right in place, and use stock FD starter in the manual bell housing. All that is needed is a trans brace on the rear, and a drive shaft.


I keep hearing all these different methods and all these different combinations, no idea what to do lol.

I'm starting the turbo 4 rotor build right now, and going with none other than a basic GTO transmission, that I've found out of a running car with average millage and good synchros. I'm going to be trying this adapter plate with a 26 spline triple plate exedy unless anyone has a surefire method of something cheaper
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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 09:43 AM
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Problem with running a rear facing starter is that you need to shave off some material from transmission case because it pretty wide and if you purchase a new transmission or used on not sure if you would like to take off material from the case of the transmission which would void your warranty or weaken your transmission case. Another problem with using stock bellhousing is safety depending on power level you are making if your making big power and clutch or flywheel brakes kiss you feet good bye. I have done alot of research to be able to create a safe and strong kit to market to help the rotary community solve one of the main problems we face when making big power.

i have a brand new rx7 single clutch with 26 splines that im not using if anybody is interested. i only had it made for mock up purposes when installing transmission but never used it. i was told that is good for 400-450hp.

Originally Posted by Monsterbox
Guys, I've heard that Addicted Performance sells a kit that consists of an Adapter plate to utilize manual bell housing. You can retain the stock T/o bearing design, and all you need is a clutch that is resplined to 26 spline.


GTO trans w/ GTO shifter should bolt right in place, and use stock FD starter in the manual bell housing. All that is needed is a trans brace on the rear, and a drive shaft.


I keep hearing all these different methods and all these different combinations, no idea what to do lol.

I'm starting the turbo 4 rotor build right now, and going with none other than a basic GTO transmission, that I've found out of a running car with average millage and good synchros. I'm going to be trying this adapter plate with a 26 spline triple plate exedy unless anyone has a surefire method of something cheaper
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RZMotorsports
i have a solution for you i have been working for the last couple of years with several manufactures and came up with a bolt on kit to fit the rx7 fd and a t56 transmission upgraded new to handle upto 850 torque. if interested PM me.
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cardmarc
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The clutch kit, transmission, Bellhousing, and differential brace are ready just waiting to install transmission to make transition crossmember and driveshaft.
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Old Jan 1, 2016 | 12:28 AM
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that bell should have been made to take a normal size clutch exedy makes a twin or tipple plate that you can customize with the 26 spline input shaft the 7.25" clutch is nightmare to drive on the street when you let that thing out you better have 40 feet in front of you
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 04:50 PM
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coming soon..

here are some pics of the progress.
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Old Sep 18, 2016 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RZMotorsports
here are some pics of the progress.
Looks Good! Can't wait
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Old Sep 19, 2016 | 04:17 PM
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coming along...

clutch, engine plate and flywheel are all in. next is the bellhousing and then transmission. if interested in the updates feel free to follow us on Instagram RZMotorsports and i post pictures of the progress there.

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Old Dec 13, 2016 | 10:34 AM
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 02:07 PM
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Some update just finishing little details should be running soon cross my fingers!

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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RZMotorsports
here are some pics of the progress.
RZ, the black sub frame in the top right is a transmission mount for the tail shaft correct? Where do I order that? I see the quicktime bell housing is available on Jegs.com

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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 11:54 AM
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updates.

I am currently working on the transmission mount because i want it to make it in a way that will provide different options because people mount the engine sometimes back and sometimes forward so what to make something that would work for all the different configurations. i work directly with the bellhousing manufacture so i can get you a better price if you are interested in the conversion. feel free to PM if you have questions more than happy to help.

Originally Posted by PDViper77
RZ, the black sub frame in the top right is a transmission mount for the tail shaft correct? Where do I order that? I see the quicktime bell housing is available on Jegs.com

Thanks
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