20b RX7 needs aftermarket e-fans? help
#1
20b RX7 needs aftermarket e-fans? help
If anyone here have same issue overheating. i had trouble staying cool, temperature outside 90 degrees, gauge climbing up to 240f and goes down to 200f while idling, but temp stays between 220-240 f. I do have Oem electric fans still vertical position mounted behind my FMIC, which may block flow into radiator. i know i have undertray to cool down engine as well, just never had chance to install it. i would like to keep my setup how it is now. anyways here is what I've done.
Oem e-fans. all stock no mod other then bypass to keep fan running high all times.
Koyo N flow radiator installed
replaced oem waterpump
installed Pineapple BT waterpump pulley kit, so belt will not slip
Using Evans coolant
sard thermostats
Oem e-fans. all stock no mod other then bypass to keep fan running high all times.
Koyo N flow radiator installed
replaced oem waterpump
installed Pineapple BT waterpump pulley kit, so belt will not slip
Using Evans coolant
sard thermostats
#2
Mazzei Formula
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Hey man,
I feel for ya. Similar issue but not nearly as bad as you.
Koyo, FMIC etc and 80mm turbocharger.
@ 100F temps outside the car sits around 215-220F in traffic with fans running at idle or low load. Interstate cruising w/ better airflow it will come down to 200-205F. There's just no getting around it.
The biggest thing to help was raising the intercooler just slightly so that there is a path under the intercooler / opening in the bumper nose to allow airflow under the I/C and to the radiator. A path by which the fans can pull air.
The EWP is also helpful, because it takes the fear out of running up to 220-230F. You can immediately switch off the engine, even while coasting on the interstate for a few seconds, keep the EWP running and temps will drop 10F in a matter of seconds. This isn't possible on mechanical pump and in fact motor would increase a few degree's when shut off.
I'm still trying to find a way to get temps down further, but I don't think there's much left.
I'm going to swap out the fan motors to the RX8 Motors + Blades. They bolt into the FD shroud, and although there are no published numbers, they likely flow more CFM and also have a higher blade count.
My 20b also has aftermarket dual oil coolers, this helped tremendously So consider this option too if you haven't already done so.
In order of priority:
1. small opening under the intercooler for fans to pull fresh air under the core
2. dual oil coolers
3. EWP
P.S. - Keep in mind, Evans reportedly runs significantly hotter than water as the thicker coolant retains more heat. So although the boiling point it raised, you will see a good deal higher temperatures on your gauge. Whether this matters or not, aka cancelled out by the fact that boiling point is way higher is debatable.
I feel for ya. Similar issue but not nearly as bad as you.
Koyo, FMIC etc and 80mm turbocharger.
@ 100F temps outside the car sits around 215-220F in traffic with fans running at idle or low load. Interstate cruising w/ better airflow it will come down to 200-205F. There's just no getting around it.
The biggest thing to help was raising the intercooler just slightly so that there is a path under the intercooler / opening in the bumper nose to allow airflow under the I/C and to the radiator. A path by which the fans can pull air.
The EWP is also helpful, because it takes the fear out of running up to 220-230F. You can immediately switch off the engine, even while coasting on the interstate for a few seconds, keep the EWP running and temps will drop 10F in a matter of seconds. This isn't possible on mechanical pump and in fact motor would increase a few degree's when shut off.
I'm still trying to find a way to get temps down further, but I don't think there's much left.
I'm going to swap out the fan motors to the RX8 Motors + Blades. They bolt into the FD shroud, and although there are no published numbers, they likely flow more CFM and also have a higher blade count.
My 20b also has aftermarket dual oil coolers, this helped tremendously So consider this option too if you haven't already done so.
In order of priority:
1. small opening under the intercooler for fans to pull fresh air under the core
2. dual oil coolers
3. EWP
P.S. - Keep in mind, Evans reportedly runs significantly hotter than water as the thicker coolant retains more heat. So although the boiling point it raised, you will see a good deal higher temperatures on your gauge. Whether this matters or not, aka cancelled out by the fact that boiling point is way higher is debatable.
Last edited by Monsterbox; 08-06-15 at 01:27 PM.
#3
Rotor Head Extreme
iTrader: (8)
If you want max cooling, you should install a 2nd gen water pump or the 20b unit. The impellers move more water and are larger in diameter. I have a large A/C condensor in front of my 3 row 2nd gen Supra radiator. It's the exact same size as the radiator ( so it almost acts like a front mount because it blocks the radiator ) and my temps never go over 200 degrees at idle in 100 degree weather when the fans kick in.
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