20b Gas Mileage
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20b Gas Mileage
The more i read into the awesome 20b the more i want to get one, but one question still remains. Is a FC with a 20b engine still a streetable car? and what kind of gas mileage will i be looking at?
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yes, its like the stock t2 except more power everywhere and properly tuned 14-16 in town and 17-20 highway, thats of course driving like a normal human, if you drive it hard its gonna be like 6mpg
A better way to look at it is to think of fuel usage as a function of load, rather then displacement. If you're just driving around town, or maintaining a certain speed on a highway, you're going to be placing the engine under the same load weather you're using a 13B or a 20B, so they'll both use similar amounts of fuel. However, if you're at WOT the 20B will use substaintially more fuel, as you're be making use of its full displacement.
Because the 20B has more rotating mass, more surface area with which to send heat to the radiator, etc, etc. it will be inherently somewhat less fuel efficent then a 13B given the same load, but the difference isn't that great, and with better tuning of the partial throttle maps and opening up bottleneck in the exhaust, etc, you can more then make up for them.
Because the 20B has more rotating mass, more surface area with which to send heat to the radiator, etc, etc. it will be inherently somewhat less fuel efficent then a 13B given the same load, but the difference isn't that great, and with better tuning of the partial throttle maps and opening up bottleneck in the exhaust, etc, you can more then make up for them.
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Originally posted by johnisenglish
A better way to look at it is to think of fuel usage as a function of load, rather then displacement. If you're just driving around town, or maintaining a certain speed on a highway, you're going to be placing the engine under the same load weather you're using a 13B or a 20B, so they'll both use similar amounts of fuel. However, if you're at WOT the 20B will use substaintially more fuel, as you're be making use of its full displacement.
Because the 20B has more rotating mass, more surface area with which to send heat to the radiator, etc, etc. it will be inherently somewhat less fuel efficent then a 13B given the same load, but the difference isn't that great, and with better tuning of the partial throttle maps and opening up bottleneck in the exhaust, etc, you can more then make up for them.
A better way to look at it is to think of fuel usage as a function of load, rather then displacement. If you're just driving around town, or maintaining a certain speed on a highway, you're going to be placing the engine under the same load weather you're using a 13B or a 20B, so they'll both use similar amounts of fuel. However, if you're at WOT the 20B will use substaintially more fuel, as you're be making use of its full displacement.
Because the 20B has more rotating mass, more surface area with which to send heat to the radiator, etc, etc. it will be inherently somewhat less fuel efficent then a 13B given the same load, but the difference isn't that great, and with better tuning of the partial throttle maps and opening up bottleneck in the exhaust, etc, you can more then make up for them.
on a 2 rotor you can run say 15:1 afr (give or take) without bucking. the 3 rotor will also run 15:1.
but since you have an extra rotor, it will use more fuel per rpm. in a 2 rotor car i get 20-22mpg in mixed driving and 23-25 freeway.
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Originally posted by DMRH
Makes me whince every time I see a thread regarding a 20B installation.
Another rare Cosmo raped for its engine....................*sigh!!!*
Makes me whince every time I see a thread regarding a 20B installation.
Another rare Cosmo raped for its engine....................*sigh!!!*
Its just like how not every Honda B18 comes from a stolen Integra.
Originally posted by DMRH
Makes me whince every time I see a thread regarding a 20B installation.
Another rare Cosmo raped for its engine....................*sigh!!!*
Makes me whince every time I see a thread regarding a 20B installation.
Another rare Cosmo raped for its engine....................*sigh!!!*
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well im not goin to run WOT every second. but i wont lie, i will autocross and of course teach those pesky honda owners that rotary dont suck (one civic owner actually was making fun of rotary engines ... >.<)but most of the time just normal driving.
Re: 20b Gas Mileage
Originally posted by 604Ryder
The more i read into the awesome 20b the more i want to get one, but one question still remains. Is a FC with a 20b engine still a streetable car? and what kind of gas mileage will i be looking at?
Danny
The more i read into the awesome 20b the more i want to get one, but one question still remains. Is a FC with a 20b engine still a streetable car? and what kind of gas mileage will i be looking at?
Danny
In daily commuting (about 80% highway), I get about 13.5 mpg. Best, observed mileage was 16 mpg on a trip down I-95 to Florida.
Originally posted by RotorMotor
raped AND butchered!!!! ive got 1/2 a cosmo in my back yard. i look forward to the day when i can take a cutting torch to her... need any parts?...last call
raped AND butchered!!!! ive got 1/2 a cosmo in my back yard. i look forward to the day when i can take a cutting torch to her... need any parts?...last call
cant wait to get the motor in the project car and see how low my gas mielage will be. with the price of gas these days $2.50 for premium, i wont be driving this thing much.
Originally posted by DMRH
Makes me whince every time I see a thread regarding a 20B installation.
Another rare Cosmo raped for its engine....................*sigh!!!*
Makes me whince every time I see a thread regarding a 20B installation.
Another rare Cosmo raped for its engine....................*sigh!!!*
I welcome you to convince the **** US EPA and DOT to allow importation of the 20B JC Cosmo into the US with reasonable prices.
I have no problem buying a legit JC Cosmo *IF* it were legal and decently priced.
Right now, all of the are priced over $10k, and they are all basically illegal.
The next best thing is to stuff it into an RX-7.
Light weight...
More sporty design...
Better suspension...
Better looks (subjective)...
-Ted
Originally posted by 604Ryder
hahah i would just change the whole symbol ... can you imagine that hood scoop on a RX7?
hahah i would just change the whole symbol ... can you imagine that hood scoop on a RX7?
back on the thread, yeah i would love to buy a real cosmo (not half of one) but the cosmo IS heavy, remember that. if you want a fast car the cosmo is not it... it weighs too much.
Oh yeah, DMRH i have some pictures that will DEFINATLY MAKE YOU "WHINCE".... just take a look ->
Originally posted by RotorMotor
ive actually seen one... but i wont start that again cause its way off topic... lets just say it was HIDEOUS!
back on the thread, yeah i would love to buy a real cosmo (not half of one) but the cosmo IS heavy, remember that. if you want a fast car the cosmo is not it... it weighs too much.
Oh yeah, DMRH i have some pictures that will DEFINATLY MAKE YOU "WHINCE".... just take a look ->
ive actually seen one... but i wont start that again cause its way off topic... lets just say it was HIDEOUS!
back on the thread, yeah i would love to buy a real cosmo (not half of one) but the cosmo IS heavy, remember that. if you want a fast car the cosmo is not it... it weighs too much.
Oh yeah, DMRH i have some pictures that will DEFINATLY MAKE YOU "WHINCE".... just take a look ->
little more
and one that will really put your panties in a bunch

ok im done hijacking this thread........
-heathoh yeah i think this thread originally started about gas mileage.... the gas mileage will be horrendous on boost, thats all i know.
Last edited by RotorMotor; Apr 21, 2004 at 04:26 PM.
gas millege 20b
i got 19 going to indy last weekend not tuned got haltec tuned by steve kan and cam worth it was real rich mid range drove too fast on way back to wi to get good numbers but i feel it will get 21 mpg at 70 mph.
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