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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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window replacement on 85 S

when i got my car it had a broken passenger window. i just got a parts car 85 SE and i thought the windows where the same so i thought the metal bracket is shorter the then the legnth between the holes on the window. now i tried and posting up a thread in the forsale section and i was told that all windows are the same. what could i be doing wrong that the lenght isnt right?

i did search and i most came a cross power window conversions and stuff!
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Afaik, all of the windows are the same. Could you post pics of your problem for clarification?
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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ok i did some searching for you leardeda few things all glass is the same 79-85 non-power regulators are also all the same 79-85 but power 79-80 and 81-85 are different. Going by whay i was able to find out. Hope this information helps you.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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that short metal braket bolts higher toward the front of the car to the door fame, its what help pivots the regulator.
just keep trying, you'll get it right.
i spent an hour the other day trying to put in a regulator the other day until i realized i had the wrong side, lol.....
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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i ll take some pics tomorrow when i get home from work.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Midwest 7's
that short metal braket bolts higher toward the front of the car to the door fame, its what help pivots the regulator.
just keep trying, you'll get it right.
i spent an hour the other day trying to put in a regulator the other day until i realized i had the wrong side, lol.....

That's funny right there I dont care who you are. LOL
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Midwest 7's
that short metal braket bolts higher toward the front of the car to the door fame, its what help pivots the regulator.
just keep trying, you'll get it right.
i spent an hour the other day trying to put in a regulator the other day until i realized i had the wrong side, lol.....
After long days that can be the worst thing to have happen, too. You start getting so frustrated, and you finally cave and say **** it. You get up the next morning and start working on it only to find out you had the wrong side and you could have had it fixed two hours before you quit working the day prior to had you just realized the minor detail. Sometimes there is nothing more frustrating than that.
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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alright i i just got home from work 9pm gotta love comcast, anyways im not going to be able get a pic tonight but i i found this on another thread

Originally Posted by rhinor61
I connects to the inter door structure with the 10mm headed bolts.

That is the pivot point for the window to up and down correctly. See pic.




John

now on the top where the window attachs with the 2 holes the distance between the 2 holes is shorter on the regulator then it is on the window its self.

is it possable to install a regulator in upside down?

this is the way that it came with the car, windonw was broken.

i hope that this helps with the details of the problem that i am having
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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no you cant put it in upside down.
you can put the wrong side in though, lol.
heres a pic, maybe it will help.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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awesome dude!!!! i ll take a lok at the car tomorrow and see whats going on with it. i hope that you didnt pull your door panel off just to take a pic for me!
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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talken about windows my 83 has power widowns and the driver side goes down and up vary slow how do i make it better
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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there was a thread for the slow windows but i cant seem to find it right now just search around alil bit right now. if i recall it was about installing relays or something im not sure i kinda over looked bc i dont have power windows
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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i will see what i can find but have not found much
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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awesome dude!!!! i ll take a lok at the car tomorrow and see whats going on with it. i hope that you didnt pull your door panel off just to take a pic for me!
nope, thats a pic from the lightweight racer.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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talken about windows my 83 has power widowns and the driver side goes down and up vary slow how do i make it better
Lube it.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 01:20 AM
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Agreed. The windows usually get slow from a combination of the switches being dirty, wiring being old, and the bearings and channels they run in getting gummed up.

First thing I go after is the bearings, their run channel and the regulators gears. I take the door panel off, and spray everything down with WD-40 and run the window up and down to clean everything out until it seems to move more smoothly, then I wipe off any excess, and spray it with something that is gonna last a bit longer and not just evaporate/run out like the WD-40. I used to go with white lithium grease because it seems to last prety well, but as Ive thought about it recently, It also tends to pick up dust/crap more than other lubes. I have been told silicone spray is the way to go, but I still use white lithum or a teflon based spray lube in there.

If that doesnt help the problem then you could look for the writeup on installing relays, and somewhat bypassing the old wiring system for the windows (a search would bring it up prety easy I think).

Lastly, if the glass run channels in the door suck, they are going to add resistance and slow the window down as well. Due to the design, this will also make the window want to grab one edge and bind somewhat on the way up and down. This is where the silicone lube is usefull. I do lube the run channels with the silicone spray, and it seams to work good. I like silicone based lubes in this type of situation because they tend not to pick up crud and gum up.
If the window seems loose in the channel you can enlarge the hole for the adjustment on the vertical run channels to make it seem more snug fitting, but I prefer to replace the channels inserts myself, I think they are only about 40 bucks at black dragon, and the replacements are prety nice. This doesnt seem like your problem though, unless the glass has derailed before haha.
Just wanted to throw that all out there, but you should be good with some lubin!
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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nope, thats a pic from the lightweight racer.
ok good i dont feel so bad about it now!
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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ok cool so i will give it a try see what happens
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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i got it in yesterday evening i dont know what i was thinking when i made this thread. i slide the window in lowered the regulator connected the right side of the window, slide the reglutor bar to the right and everything lined up. i tighted everything down and everything works good!

Thank You Guys!

now im going to need to change the door handle on the driver side im going to start searching now!
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