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Old 10-25-02, 01:22 PM
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Widebody Question

Does anybody here have a Mariah Mode one Widebody?

I have some Rims/Tire questions.

I want to know how wide I can go on 17's if possible. I think it's 17x10 front and 17x12 rear, but I may be incorrect. It may be 17x8 front, and 17x10 rear.. I dunno.

The other difficult part is that I have a GSL-SE, so the offset is different from the traditional 1st Gens.

Mike-P will probably have the same question, but he has a GSL offset.

My goal is for the Rim and tire to "barely" fit under the fender, without it protruding. - Vette Like.

Kinda like this (I know this is a second Gen...)


If someone knows how to calculate it with the offset and all that - that might help narrow dows the choices.

The Rims I really want are just like Max7's - but in the correct proportional width, for the widebody.



14" vs. 17" side by side
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DF, call and ask jeff, at designenergy. If anybody knows
(1) how large of wheel. (2) what offset. and give you a positive answer, because, hey !. Thats what they do.
I'm surprized you didn't ask when ordering your mode one, man. A 17' inch wheel ? man,,thats big.
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Im goin with a 16, 17 is too big for me...

They got a nice packagae on there, with wheels and all... He said if I dont like them, I have the option of them finding them for me locally and sending them with the package. What a bunch of nice guys

Call me if you need more details..
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what kind of tires are those on the 17"s ??
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go with 16's, 17's look too big for FB's IMO
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go 17s it will look sick.

I cant think of the name, but in the last SCC mag, on there MR2 project car they installed a veilside widebody kit. They got custom offset wheels with a huge crome lip.

they got it perfect and it really pulled all the body mods together. Looked tight as hell.

Ill see if I can find the name.
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This is the only widebody first gen that looks good. The ONLY one:



so mimic it as MUCH AS POSSIBLE!!!!!
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I take that back. This one is tight too:

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My 16s had clearance issues with the stock body as it was - I had to modify the front fenders with subtle flares so the tires wouldn't scuff while cornering.

the 205/50R16 tires aren't nearly as wide as you're talking, and already steering and straight-line handling over bumps is lousy. The wider you go, the worse these characteristics get.
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If you like that,
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When it's all said and done, no matter how much sugar frosting is put on, it's still not....a,,..
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Originally posted by mark perez
When it's all said and done, no matter how much sugar frosting is put on, it's still not....a,,..


Mark, If I wanted a Third Gen, I would’ve gotten a third gen. I have owned 7 FB’s and I haven’t owned one since 1996, - until my relatively recent addition last December.

Back in the day, I always dreamed of a mint Wide-body Turbo GSL-SE. Now I am finally realizing that dream, little by little. This Forum has been an UNBELIEVABLE amount of help in the process. Too bad the internet didn’t exist like it does today back in the early 90’s.

Trust me, I’ve spent more than enough to buy a well modified single Turbo FD by now, but that’s not what gets my juices going – at least not yet.


IoTuS - Those pics are what I mean when I say they look old and dated. Those body kits are fine, but they need nice colors, nice paintjobs, and absolutely sick rims.




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The tires in the first pic on the red widebody are Yokohama AVS Intermediates.

The tires on the Konig's, I can't for the life of me remember which is annoying me to no end.
:'(
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Originally posted by EL PAALO
The tires in the first pic on the red widebody are Yokohama AVS Intermediates.

The tires on the Konig's, I can't for the life of me remember which is annoying me to no end.
:'(
damn its a good thing we dont run tirespecs.com those are toyo proxy ra-1's
for one those are sweet and easy to recognize tires, and 2, it says toyo in the title of picture
all those who vote to demote paalo and have me move up in the ranks of wheelspecs.com say stand up
/me stands up

take it easy
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DF,you must admit that, the picture of that silver 3rd gen
uptop, is one nice looking car, well done, awesome colour,Really i just fucked up and posted the wrong picture. The car i was trying to post is a picture of a car
that you had posted. the ARTIC silver FB w/mode one
with the skirt/sill's If i could find a picture of a better
mode one, keeping with-in the mariah product line i would share it. Stiil on the look out. No doubt,with where your going with your FB you could have a 3rd gen
With the $$$ i've spent on mine, i could too. So whats
wrong with us,,Lol. I'm kidding. Anyway,, congrats. on
your project/investment. Your right about the internet thing. Mankind HAS come a long way in just a decade.
The world at are finger tips..Thats an interesting ,,, what ? SA / FB up top here. is that charcoal colour ??
the frontend / bumper seamlessly blends right in to the fenders. Do you know the wheel size there ?? This is the picture i tryied to post, look familure ??
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Ok mr. wheel people, what are these and where can I get them LOL

This car is just plain bad *** I think... Someone photoshop it tender blue LOL I got a picture of how I painted my firewall, can you copy a color and then paint the whole car with it? Im a suck *** photoshopper


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Budnik Spider, perhaps....

They look like the Budnik Spider to me. Not cheap - not sure where to get them the cheapest. There may be a knock-off that's cheaper. HTH

http://budnikwheels.com/roadwheelite...6&pid=564&pg=3

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Every time I see the body kit posted by DR above, I email the owner and ask "What is it called? Where'd you get it?" They ALL claim it's a custom design made to their personal specs and wait for me to tell them how creative and unique they are, but I've seen it in 4 colours, each on different cars, to date.

So where does one get that kit? I'd not use it on Pamela, but I'd buy a new FB for it.
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Re: Budnik Spider, perhaps....

Originally posted by lotsacars
They look like the Budnik Spider to me. Not cheap - not sure where to get them the cheapest. There may be a knock-off that's cheaper. HTH

http://budnikwheels.com/roadwheelite...6&pid=564&pg=3

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WOW thats them... Maybe I dont want them now

16 x 9.5 $386.25
Ok guys lets play find the old man some wheels... I will pay to have them custom drilled, Cause I know I'll have too. So help me out you young ins
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Originally posted by Manntis
Every time I see the body kit posted by DR above, I email the owner and ask "What is it called? Where'd you get it?" They ALL claim it's a custom design made to their personal specs and wait for me to tell them how creative and unique they are, but I've seen it in 4 colours, each on different cars, to date.

So where does one get that kit? I'd not use it on Pamela, but I'd buy a new FB for it.
I also seen several 911 kits for a 7 back in the day too... Used to see a lot of them around Florida I think its a kit too.
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Mike, your going, what ?? 16 x ? for the front. and 16 x ?
for the rear.I'd go 2 inches wider for the rears. and with a some-what deep ' dish' or i guess ' lip' and kinda flush for the fronts ?????
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The moderately flared fenders can accomodate wheel sizes of up to 8.5 x 16" on the front and 9.5 x 16" on the rear.
I would prefer to keep them all the same size ... If possible...
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Okay so back to the Porsche body kit! Any info?
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Directfreak, That is an absolutly beautiful widebody kit!!!! I love it. Would choose that over a Mariah kit anyday!! looks expensive though
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Originally posted by moremazda
Okay so back to the Porsche body kit! Any info?
Somewhere around 1990 - 1991 , I seen a couple of them in Florida, while vacationing.. I also see 2 or 3 more in an auto trader I picked up when I was down there.. So I know they are out there... Thats too many for a 1 off total custom job..


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