lol You guys crack me up man, almost sound like Initial D. Anyways I was trying to compare both cars stock form. For example my 81 Rx7 Vs AE-86 if both were stock however; I realize you have to hook up both cars in order to make them peform even better. But if both cars where hooked up with 200HP at least and both turbo or maybe non turbo who will still win. Dose it come down to the driver which I already know but if both drivers where equaly good. Then which car will win?


P.S. I hope Initial D put a FB to race even if it lose to the EA-86. That would be so tight!

 

Having driven both an 84 GSL and a 85 GT-S (stock) I can say the RX-7 was superior.

Except in parking lots; PS in the Rolla was nice =p

 

it's a wash at that point. way to many variables up in the air to make any judgement until you have two of them lined up side by side. even then it'll vary from car to car, driver to driver.

 

Is Takumi driving the AE86? Err... </geek>

 

yea Takumi Fujiwara, why? I love the anime so much I am buying the series later on.

 

I meant that in regards to the pool. If Takumi is driving,... the SA/FB might be in trouble ;D

 

Stock the AE is lighter and has more HP than a FB33. If both were factory restored. AE86 would win a drag, but the FB has faster slolum and gpad results. There fore better handeling.. Pimped out though tou can't beat a FB beiochhhh. Unless Takumi is driving....

 

It would be close with a hachiroku vs 12a rx7 . but what about the AE85 oh man. . .

 

I'm pretty sure Road & Track gave the 0-60 and 1/4 mi. times as this:

85 Corolla GT-S: 10.5 / 18.6

79 RX-7 GS: 9.2 / 17.0

83 RX-7 GS: 9.5 / 17.0

85 RX-7 GSL: 9.9 / 17.4

84 RX-7 GSL-SE: 7.8 / 15.9


Buuuut remember these cars are around 20 years old and the stock suspension is probably pretty worn out. I don't know who would win in the handling dept. but I bet it really really REALLY doesn't matter because when are a perfect stock FB and a perfect stock AE86 ever gonna go head to head to prove it?

 

Also remember that stock FBs and stock AE86s are not good race cars.

Ever.

 

RX-7 Will win for sure.

Talk about HP. Stock 12A with Full EXT. WEBER IDA. bigger fuel pump. will crank about 15-30HP depeond on your engine condion...


AE86. FULL EXT. Twin DCOE. A CAM. polish head. might give you same HP. but it is a lot more $$ than RE.

Handling.

Both car share very similr suspension lay out. Altought AE86 got better steering system design.

Styling Personaly I like SA22C's design much better, it just look more like a sport car.

Price. very hard and $$ to find a claean AE86

SO final world
THEY are about the same if you put money in it. but SA will had advantage because it need less moeny to do so...

 

have you seen the AE86 in the touge? i have a vid somewhere of the AE vs. a skyline i think it was. the AE, although highly modified sure kicked some ***

dorifto machines is about all they are good for in moderatly modded form. stock they arent anything to write home about.

 

if its stock on stock the fb should outhandle the ae86 soundly. the ae86 does nothing well, its all the driver and the tune of the car that makes an ae86 a good drift or autox or drag car. Drag racing it will be close, still give it to the fb, as the fb has no rev limiter and you can hold the gears a little longer to stay in the powerband. The 86 is a pig that goes for too much due to a stupid cartoon.

 

Oh! lol ... I see what you mean onexenon. I agree also with that.

True that l28etman, I bet price when up as soon as this anime where out. Hehehe suck!.

 

Okay, we just had to decide this.

My uncle has a 1985/6 ish Corolla GTS with a fixed headlight conversion (He's weird).
He has also swapped in a streetported 12A (Did I say he's weird) with a mechanical secondaries mod. He has my Racing Beat Road Race to Power Pulse setup. Stock suspension.

I have my 1983 GSL with streetport, stripped mechanical secondaries carb.
Koni Suspension struts and whatnot. Clear tails (20 HP added, at least!).
Stock exhaust. . . . well, I have a manifold. . . . .

We're both rolling stock 13" wheels with BF tires.

My interior is tar free, passenger seat removed for now, no spare, just carpet, seat, and plastic.

His interior is mostly intact, minus the tar.

I figure his car weighs in at under 1900. Mine at 2100 or so.

So, we go to the local 'race road' to decide this.

The first two miles or so are a twisty mountainside road, not MUCH elevation change, except an uphill section that leads to a mean downhill turn.

Second section is NICE twisties. . . . in DIRT. Third section is about a three mile long straight until you hit the security gate (open during the day, it's a state park or something like that, but it's closed at night.)

We started out equal, and he IMMEDIATELY started pulling ahead. I was catching up on the twisties, as his suspension just wasn't holding up like mine, but he had SUCH A POWER and weight advantage over me, I didn't stand a chance.

When we hit the dirt, I realized that Corolla would NOT be a fun car to drift in! It was losing control frequently when I think it should have held traction. My uncle is no rookie driver, so I'm SURE it's the car's fault. I pulled ahead on the dirt section. He pulled out of the dirt a good ten seconds after me, but he was catching up by the end of the straight.

Results?

I won, simply because the seven held the dirt section better than the 86. If the dirt section were any smaller, he would have closed the gap.

 

ae86 corollas are huge popular, here and elsewhere.. They had a few advantages over the carbed FB, but comparing the SE to the ae86 is the best comparison. Compare the ae85 to any non-SE first gen, and well, I think it's no contest, FB.
I still can't understand why the ae86 is lighter, especially being a 4 seater, but I'm not terribly familiar with them. Though, I am pretty sure they had stock rack and pinion steering and panhard bar, so you got a bit more to work with stock. Also there is huge aftermarket support for them in Japan while the SA22 is "just an old car" there. The FC just took over.. ah, well..

 

its lighter because there is less metal in the car. lol Its a tin can next to a Mazda. thats why its lighter. Just like my old civic being 1984 stock with a full tank. I got it down to around 1800...

 

*raises hand*

Getting kinda tired of hearing the SR5 refered to as an "AE85."

For the record the AE85 has a 3A-U not available in North America... That's what makes the car an AE85; that motor, the 3A-U.

SR5's are 4A-C.

So to recap; unless your talking about Japanese market cars they're all AE86's. And if you are talking about Japanese market cars then using the AE85 for comparison is putting one hell of a handicap on the rolla.

 

My buddy in Oz has a 13b entend port with t68 turbo in a 74 Rolla putting down 986 hp at the wheels, now thats the best answer to which is best.

 

If it has the SOHC engine, I just call it an ae85.. I dunno corollas. That's just what I call them. I suppose sr5 is just as easy..
けど、８５言えば同じぐらいじゃない？ どうでもいいだろう？　heheh

 

sorry, bored.

 

Instead of AE85 why don't you just call it a SR5? Less typing, more accurate.

 

Yup, the AE86 has tons of body flex compared to an FB.

 

okay, then. sr5 it is..

 

Why is called SR-5 when is AE-86? Then why not call it Trueno? lol