who said SA's are crap??!
10-29-04, 10:16 AM
#6
Retro Rocket
Originally Posted by vipernicus42
I was gonna say "That first one looks good, but it looks like it's from the seventies"... then I realized.. it is!
Jon
Jon
The "seventies" to many of you is, like, totally prehistoric. But it seems like yesterday to me!
Originally Posted by BMS2004
they are "butt" ugly can't stand the rear tailight design on the SA's just looks out of place...
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10-29-04, 10:41 AM
#7
love the braaaap
Nobody ever said SA's are crap. They just don't look quite as good as the FB IMO. I've talked to people that say they like the look of the SA better than the FB.
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10-29-04, 11:09 AM
#9
SA all the Way!
personally, i hate the FB tails, i think they're modern looking and ugly, i also hate the FB bumper skins w/ a passion.
the SA tails give a unique look, and an older look to the car, which it is. It has an old school look to it with those tails, that the FB tails just dont have, they're way too complex looking for a car with as simple and elegant lines as the SA/FB.
IMO, the SA > FB in all respects EXCEPT for the brake thread pitch difference (dont even get me started on that crap)
SA's also got the better looking dash (well, all 79-83 got them) instead of the *** ugly 80's style 84-85 dash :vomit:
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its just so.... elegant and old school (it looks a lot better with a plate in there though) I'd never trade a SA for an FB... i might use an FB as a winter beater though, as they're so much more plentiful.
the SA tails give a unique look, and an older look to the car, which it is. It has an old school look to it with those tails, that the FB tails just dont have, they're way too complex looking for a car with as simple and elegant lines as the SA/FB.
IMO, the SA > FB in all respects EXCEPT for the brake thread pitch difference (dont even get me started on that crap)
SA's also got the better looking dash (well, all 79-83 got them) instead of the *** ugly 80's style 84-85 dash :vomit:
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its just so.... elegant and old school (it looks a lot better with a plate in there though) I'd never trade a SA for an FB... i might use an FB as a winter beater though, as they're so much more plentiful.
Last edited by jutny; 10-29-04 at 11:12 AM.
10-29-04, 11:44 AM
#11
I like the way the lower part of the front fenders ahead of the wheels looks on the SA compared to the extra curved part on the FB. Know what I'm talking about? The SA just has that little chin spoiler instead of spoiling that line.
10-31-04, 03:24 PM
#14
Ahhh. Its like "Austin Healy 100 vs. AH 3000" or "240z vs 260/280z" all over again! IMHO it seems that the original designs seem to be the "purest" expression of what the designers wanted (once they got it past the pencil-pushers and the marketting guys . The SAs are clean and simple, dare I say like the first versions of the above Healey and 240. Some would say they all go downhill from there, the 280z being perhaps the best (worst?) example of how far The Chosen can fall... The SA isn't perfect: combo volt meter/tach is just dumb; door mirrors (on the US cars) looked weak; and, yes, had mazda continued with its theme of round tail lights in its rotary engined models (as proposed in prototypes, a la R100/RX2/RX3 and then later FCs) it would have made the rear end absolutely perfect (again IMHO). But for most of us SA-folk the slim, understated body mouldings; the then-fashionable (and now nicely retro) "euro-look" alloy wheels; the sweet tapered body lines unfettered by the bulky bumper-skins of later cars... its the stuff that makes pulling up a chair at the driveway and _staring_ at the car a great experience...
Ahh, the poetry of it all...
The Good News is the 81+ style gives those folks something to love, and makes the limited number (if you can say that about some 100,000 produced) of SAs something to treasure for the RX-purists like myself. Vive la difference!
Stu Aull
80GS
Alaska
. The SAs are clean and simple, dare I say like the first versions of the above Healey and 240. Some would say they all go downhill from there, the 280z being perhaps the best (worst?) example of how far The Chosen can fall... The SA isn't perfect: combo volt meter/tach is just dumb; door mirrors (on the US cars) looked weak; and, yes, had mazda continued with its theme of round tail lights in its rotary engined models (as proposed in prototypes, a la R100/RX2/RX3 and then later FCs) it would have made the rear end absolutely perfect (again IMHO). But for most of us SA-folk the slim, understated body mouldings; the then-fashionable (and now nicely retro) "euro-look" alloy wheels; the sweet tapered body lines unfettered by the bulky bumper-skins of later cars... its the stuff that makes pulling up a chair at the driveway and _staring_ at the car a great experience... Ahh, the poetry of it all...
The Good News is the 81+ style gives those folks something to love, and makes the limited number (if you can say that about some 100,000 produced) of SAs something to treasure for the RX-purists like myself. Vive la difference!
Stu Aull
80GS
Alaska
10-31-04, 05:28 PM
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With the wide european license plates the SA back end doesn't look bad at all. It just didn't translate to the little american plates very well.
The later dashes represent all that was wrong with the 80s: overstyled, cheap, and ugly.
The later dashes represent all that was wrong with the 80s: overstyled, cheap, and ugly.
10-31-04, 10:40 PM
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It's amazing how different the SA/FB look, especially since they share 98% of the same sheet metal. The FB can look very modern in darker colors and some plus sized wheels, but the SA will always have a look and a feel that dates it to the late seventies. It all depends what you're looking for.
That being said, Wankelguy's right about the front fenders. The little chin spoiler looks infinately better than the FB style fenders.
That being said, Wankelguy's right about the front fenders. The little chin spoiler looks infinately better than the FB style fenders.
10-31-04, 11:00 PM
#21
Originally Posted by MosesX605
It's amazing how different the SA/FB look, especially since they share 98% of the same sheet metal. The FB can look very modern in darker colors and some plus sized wheels, but the SA will always have a look and a feel that dates it to the late seventies. It all depends what you're looking for.
That being said, Wankelguy's right about the front fenders. The little chin spoiler looks infinately better than the FB style fenders.
That being said, Wankelguy's right about the front fenders. The little chin spoiler looks infinately better than the FB style fenders.
What chin spoiler are you guys talking about? Pics please?
I like the fb dash and tailights better myself.
10-31-04, 11:19 PM
#22
Originally Posted by jutny
personally, i hate the FB tails, i think they're modern looking and ugly, i also hate the FB bumper skins w/ a passion.
the SA tails give a unique look, and an older look to the car, which it is. It has an old school look to it with those tails, that the FB tails just dont have, they're way too complex looking for a car with as simple and elegant lines as the SA/FB.
IMO, the SA > FB in all respects EXCEPT for the brake thread pitch difference (dont even get me started on that crap)
SA's also got the better looking dash (well, all 79-83 got them) instead of the *** ugly 80's style 84-85 dash :vomit:
edit:
its just so.... elegant and old school (it looks a lot better with a plate in there though) I'd never trade a SA for an FB... i might use an FB as a winter beater though, as they're so much more plentiful.
the SA tails give a unique look, and an older look to the car, which it is. It has an old school look to it with those tails, that the FB tails just dont have, they're way too complex looking for a car with as simple and elegant lines as the SA/FB.
IMO, the SA > FB in all respects EXCEPT for the brake thread pitch difference (dont even get me started on that crap)
SA's also got the better looking dash (well, all 79-83 got them) instead of the *** ugly 80's style 84-85 dash :vomit:
edit:
its just so.... elegant and old school (it looks a lot better with a plate in there though) I'd never trade a SA for an FB... i might use an FB as a winter beater though, as they're so much more plentiful.
11-01-04, 12:50 AM
#23
here's a fully built SA that i drove to 7stock since dave was on crutches. it's wackyracer's bro-in-law's btw
the biggest streetport on 51 IDA, direct fire, RB lightened flywheel, and other goodies. and the weds rims of course
simple, clean, and definitely fast!
a true sleeper also since it's stock body.. but the sound that the car produces isn't.. lol
the biggest streetport on 51 IDA, direct fire, RB lightened flywheel, and other goodies. and the weds rims of course
simple, clean, and definitely fast!
a true sleeper also since it's stock body.. but the sound that the car produces isn't.. lol