Whats the 1/4 mile time for an 83 GSL?
Originally posted by WackyRotary
enlighten me, what is a fuel cooling trick?
enlighten me, what is a fuel cooling trick?
more hp= faster times
Its alot cooler here in FL at nights now,I got some tricks im going to try and if they work im hoping to drop like .5 of a sec.
Which is askin for alot,BUT I wont know untill I try it,I did a $15. mod BUT I had this part so I really didnt spend it and im pretty sure that helped me loose .5 of a sec.It needs a little bit more work,with tuning the carb I know Im not at my max HP for myset up,I need to have the car dynoed and rejetted on the machine,BUT I dont care abotuthat right now cause Im not keeping this set up for ever,Its going to be ported soon,as soon as I get the templates,I just bought a bad *** Dremel like 2 months ago and need to port some engines the reason I got this Dremel,
Originally posted by Fennix_sr
lets change the subject, how fast 0-60 you think a gsl-se could do what what about a 1/4 mile?
lets change the subject, how fast 0-60 you think a gsl-se could do what what about a 1/4 mile?
Take it to the track and find out,then get soemone else to drive,see if theres a diffrence.
Originally posted by SoRRoW
I guess you never heard cooler fuel =more hp
more hp= faster times
Its alot cooler here in FL at nights now,I got some tricks im going to try and if they work im hoping to drop like .5 of a sec.
Which is askin for alot,BUT I wont know untill I try it,I did a $15. mod BUT I had this part so I really didnt spend it and im pretty sure that helped me loose .5 of a sec.It needs a little bit more work,with tuning the carb I know Im not at my max HP for myset up,I need to have the car dynoed and rejetted on the machine,BUT I dont care abotuthat right now cause Im not keeping this set up for ever,Its going to be ported soon,as soon as I get the templates,I just bought a bad *** Dremel like 2 months ago and need to port some engines the reason I got this Dremel,
I guess you never heard cooler fuel =more hp
more hp= faster times
Its alot cooler here in FL at nights now,I got some tricks im going to try and if they work im hoping to drop like .5 of a sec.
Which is askin for alot,BUT I wont know untill I try it,I did a $15. mod BUT I had this part so I really didnt spend it and im pretty sure that helped me loose .5 of a sec.It needs a little bit more work,with tuning the carb I know Im not at my max HP for myset up,I need to have the car dynoed and rejetted on the machine,BUT I dont care abotuthat right now cause Im not keeping this set up for ever,Its going to be ported soon,as soon as I get the templates,I just bought a bad *** Dremel like 2 months ago and need to port some engines the reason I got this Dremel,
As for the dremel - good luck. The best porting tools are an electric die grinder, followed by an air-powerd grinder. Your dremel tools will quickly get eaten up - buy a LOT of em, and be careful that you don't burn up the Dremel itself. The costs will suprise ya. Yes, a dremel will work, but it's nowhere near the ideal tool for the job.
-Jacob
Like I said Im hoping to loose .5 to cooler fuel,
he intake and carb sit over the header and the header is not wrapped or covered,Cooler fuel WILL help,maybe by not .5 if it helps by .2 it helped me cause its a free mod.
Ok now heres where you lost me (As for the dremel - good luck. The best porting tools are an electric die grinder, followed by an air-powerd grinder. Your dremel tools will quickly get eaten up)
Have you used either?
Heres my dremel
http://www.dremel.com/productdisplay...ay.asp?SKU=395
The bits for this are cheap and last long,I payed $75. for my Dremel kit as you noticed it has a rpm range from 3k to 35k.I have used this to port match my RB intake and a little on this 79 in take and still using the cheap bits compared to the $60. PER bit I would buy for my $130. BluePoint (aka Snap on) die grinder
Theres a guy on the other forum who has ported the intake and exhast (street port)on his 13BREW with a dremel and the port and polsih is so clean and his bits are still good for round 2,Did I menion you might buy thr porting kit for $15. for the dremel compared to $60. for one bit for a air/grinder?
Now how about the 35,000 rpms tell me if its still a POS?
he intake and carb sit over the header and the header is not wrapped or covered,Cooler fuel WILL help,maybe by not .5 if it helps by .2 it helped me cause its a free mod.
Ok now heres where you lost me (As for the dremel - good luck. The best porting tools are an electric die grinder, followed by an air-powerd grinder. Your dremel tools will quickly get eaten up)
Have you used either?
Heres my dremel
http://www.dremel.com/productdisplay...ay.asp?SKU=395
The bits for this are cheap and last long,I payed $75. for my Dremel kit as you noticed it has a rpm range from 3k to 35k.I have used this to port match my RB intake and a little on this 79 in take and still using the cheap bits compared to the $60. PER bit I would buy for my $130. BluePoint (aka Snap on) die grinder
Theres a guy on the other forum who has ported the intake and exhast (street port)on his 13BREW with a dremel and the port and polsih is so clean and his bits are still good for round 2,Did I menion you might buy thr porting kit for $15. for the dremel compared to $60. for one bit for a air/grinder?
Now how about the 35,000 rpms tell me if its still a POS?
Last edited by SoRRoW; Dec 12, 2002 at 12:08 PM.
So you logged so I cant get a response?
As a matter of fact,a friend came over Sunday and wanted his car droped abotu 1 coil in the back to sit even with the front with his 205/60/13 in the rears.
I took the springs out,it took me less then 1 min to cut the spring with this Dremel.I dont have a air compressor at home and cant use my air tools,BUT hopefully I should have a shop opened by Mid Jan to early Feb me and 2 other gusy were going to rent so we can work on cars there,Even though I wil have an air compressor then ,I will contine to use this Dremel for porting.
As a matter of fact,a friend came over Sunday and wanted his car droped abotu 1 coil in the back to sit even with the front with his 205/60/13 in the rears.
I took the springs out,it took me less then 1 min to cut the spring with this Dremel.I dont have a air compressor at home and cant use my air tools,BUT hopefully I should have a shop opened by Mid Jan to early Feb me and 2 other gusy were going to rent so we can work on cars there,Even though I wil have an air compressor then ,I will contine to use this Dremel for porting.
Sorry, Sorrow, don't get too upset.
I didn't mean to disrespect your Dremel at all - but until you've tried the difference between a high quality electric grinder, air grinder, and a Wal-Mart Dremel, I don't think you will understand what I mean. My time is worth money - and a Dremel takes a LOT more time. That being said, I DO sometimes use a Dremel for light porting or clean-up (it's quieter and more conveinent to use while watching TV and sipping a beer), but for a large, real job - you save a LOT of time with the CORRECT tool.
Don't believe me? Ask your favorite porter what they use!
Or just check porting guides online...
-SOURCE
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As for being online and not giving you a response, I'm not trying to get into an argument/feud - just pointing something out. You know what they say about arguing on the internet...
I didn't mean to disrespect your Dremel at all - but until you've tried the difference between a high quality electric grinder, air grinder, and a Wal-Mart Dremel, I don't think you will understand what I mean. My time is worth money - and a Dremel takes a LOT more time. That being said, I DO sometimes use a Dremel for light porting or clean-up (it's quieter and more conveinent to use while watching TV and sipping a beer), but for a large, real job - you save a LOT of time with the CORRECT tool.
Don't believe me? Ask your favorite porter what they use!
Or just check porting guides online...
You really need a die grinder to port heads. A dremel tool just doesn't have the power to remove lots of material.
The components in these kits are designed for mounting in a die grinder having a maximum speed of 18,000-20,000 rpm and a 1/4-in. diameter collet or "chuck." Do not use an 1/8-inch collet grinder of the type used in hobby or arts and crafts work.
An air-powered die grinder is desirable because of its relatively low cost and variable speed.
An air-powered die grinder is desirable because of its relatively low cost and variable speed.
The best solution is an real industrial die grinder...Dremels are nice but not up to the strength needed...
As for being online and not giving you a response, I'm not trying to get into an argument/feud - just pointing something out. You know what they say about arguing on the internet...
"but until you've tried the difference between a high quality electric grinder, air grinder'
So my Bluepoint grinder just happend to be cheap?I have used both heres WHY I like my eletric one better,
1, I dont have an air compressor home and I can use my eletric one when ever dont matter if 2 am or 2 pm.
2, I can but a polish kit for this dremel for $15.
1 carbit bit=$60.
3, I got this as a personal/hobby use.
I have done mechanics over 7 yrs now,I know eletric powered ones wont last as long as air etc etc.
I have 2 carbine bits for porting for my Bluepoint grinder and thats not even enough to get the job done.
I can port 2 plates and I really doubt you wil be able to tell me which one did what.
So my Bluepoint grinder just happend to be cheap?I have used both heres WHY I like my eletric one better,
1, I dont have an air compressor home and I can use my eletric one when ever dont matter if 2 am or 2 pm.
2, I can but a polish kit for this dremel for $15.
1 carbit bit=$60.
3, I got this as a personal/hobby use.
I have done mechanics over 7 yrs now,I know eletric powered ones wont last as long as air etc etc.
I have 2 carbine bits for porting for my Bluepoint grinder and thats not even enough to get the job done.
I can port 2 plates and I really doubt you wil be able to tell me which one did what.
LOL, sorry, but porting basics apply to ALL motors - the materials are always similar. Unless you have a magnesium or titanium rotary? If you don't think you have anything to learn from piston-people types, you're wrong. Everyone has something to contribute.
Also, don't brag too much about your Dremel revving to 35k. Porting at that speed is a perfect way to kill the bit - you will clog it up VERY quickly. Speaking of which - it is a CARBIDE bit - not "carbit" or "carbine" as you have already called it.
Needless to say, I never said the Dremel won't do the job. In fact, I've repeatedly said it will - slower, and less efficiently. Why are you still arguing? There is a right tool for the job, and it is NOT the dremel (my point)...that being said, I again wish you "good luck."
Adieu. This conversation is
Also, don't brag too much about your Dremel revving to 35k. Porting at that speed is a perfect way to kill the bit - you will clog it up VERY quickly. Speaking of which - it is a CARBIDE bit - not "carbit" or "carbine" as you have already called it.
Needless to say, I never said the Dremel won't do the job. In fact, I've repeatedly said it will - slower, and less efficiently. Why are you still arguing? There is a right tool for the job, and it is NOT the dremel (my point)...that being said, I again wish you "good luck."
Adieu. This conversation is
Like I said,Im using it,I will continue to use it,and it will be cheaper for me in the long run.
It dont matter if it takes me 6 hrs to port an engine,(which on reality 3)
Thats $300.+ I have saved in my pockets.So on my spare time its ok.
It dont matter if it takes me 6 hrs to port an engine,(which on reality 3)
Thats $300.+ I have saved in my pockets.So on my spare time its ok.
A G tech is bullshit,You can type in wrong info and when yoou calibrate it,then use it it will give a wrong reading,I seen other peopel use it who has been to the track or who has been to a dyno and times/hp were off.
I have personally use this and I feel its a $200. waste of money.As a matter of fact my cousin told me 2 days ago he might be selling his for $175. but he doesnt have the papers,but you can read it and calibrate it.
Its the newest model about 2 months old.
I have personally use this and I feel its a $200. waste of money.As a matter of fact my cousin told me 2 days ago he might be selling his for $175. but he doesnt have the papers,but you can read it and calibrate it.
Its the newest model about 2 months old.
Originally posted by Stepdaddy
so 15-17 secs is just about right..right?
so 15-17 secs is just about right..right?
Originally posted by Winnipeg85GSL
Ya air powered grinders own Dremels.
Ya air powered grinders own Dremels.
Here my list of air tools just sitting,
Ingersol Rand 1/2 air gun
Ingersol 3/8 air wratchet
Matco 3/8 air gun
Matco 1/4 air wratchet
Bluepoint die grinder
Bluepoint angle grinder
Cambel Hausfeild die grinder
Cambel Huasfeild d/a
What a waste cause I have no air compressor So I use my eletric power/cordless tools.
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