Roundabout

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I was just curious to see if anybody ordered some 2nd gen wires to use on this setup. I would like to avoid doing this because they are pretty long as I remember from my old FC. Any suggestions?

trochoid

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Stock FB ones.

LokiRx7.1

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Next question, What kind of plugs do you use anyone using the stock FB ones?

(sorry...)

Roundabout

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okay, I remember reading that the depth of the 2g coil (where the plug wire connects) is deeper than the 1st gen coil. I haven't received the 2gcdifs setup in the mail yet, so I figured I better be prepared before it arrives
Thanks!
Justin

trochoid

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FB wires are working fine on mine. I am running 2nd gen leading plugs, 1st gen trailing.

inuissus_cendi

Yeah you'll have to cut back the rubber boot.

I'm running 1st Gen plugs all around but I just ordered 2nd Gens.

Roundabout

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Thanks for clearing that up trochoid and inuissus_cendi

steve84GS TII

Magnacore 10.5MM wires for the 1st gen.
They are like extension cords,very thick and beefy.Been on there with direct fire and MSD for about 7-8 years.No issues,no problems,best $70 I ever spent.

I did have to pack the plug ends with dielectric grease to prevent spark leakage.The MSD direct fire system is a huge jump over the stocker and I was seeing some grounding coming from the boots to the engine block when I turned off all the lights.

Kentetsu

You can use the stock wires if you're able to slide the boot back a bit. The contact has to reach down into the coil further, but if you can slide the boot back to make it reach then you're all set.

Use the stock 2nd gen plugs on the leading side...

RX7Rox

I purchased a set of 2nd gen Accel 8.5mm wires off Ebay. Yes, they are long! The metal ends they use are soft, so I spread them apart with my needle nose pliers and cut the wires to length and recrimped the ends on. They look good and perform great.

Roundabout

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I got the Transistor and the 2g coil in the mail today and hooked everything up. I noticed after running it for about 5 minutes that the base of the 2g coil (mounting side) is almost too hot to touch.... is this normal?

gsl-se addict

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Yeah, the current TT has that problem. I have a new design to fix that, but I need to do some testing first. Many guys ran for several months before having issues caused by the heating. If the ignitor gets too hot for too long, it will quit working. Just depends if you what to chance it our not. Several guys have wanted to use the TT even after they had ignitor failure because of the increased performance of the TT.

Now, I have offered the guys that bought the previous TT a discount on the new one because of this problem. You bought yours used, but I would still be willing to work something out if you want. I figure the easiest thing to to provide an assembled board or a blank board and parts and you can use the old box/wires. The new board is the same size, so it will fit in that box. You would just need to solder the five wires to the new board. I assume that this is one of my boards and not one that someone else made.

Let me know if you have any questions/problems.

Kent

Roundabout

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Yup, it's exactly the same as the one in your writeup. I have a spare heatsync laying around from an old computer I am going to try attaching to the back side of the coil.

I took it for a spin a little bit ago and noticed that after 4k RPMs it misses here and there and then looses a lot of power after 6k RPMs. I didn't reset the timing after hooking this system up, would that have anything to do with it?
THanks
Justin

gsl-se addict

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Yeah, try to reset the timing. That should help. The simple circuit should work well at those RPM (the auto-switching/more advanced versions work better up top). So, this is a circuit that someone built? Just trying make sure I know what version you are working with.

Anything you can do to help keep it cool will add life to the ignitor. Perhaps you could also add a fan or something. Another option is to add an additional ballast resistor between the 2nd gen ignitor and the coil -. This will reduce current and heating. I am not sure of how it will affect performance as I have not tried it yet.

Roundabout

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Im not sure who made it, I bought it from skizzle84 out of the 1st gen classified section.
I am in the process of drilling a bunch of holes in the middle of the mounting bracket to anchor a computer fan on the outside....will post pictures later.
Looks like its time to buy a timing light.
Justin

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Okay. You have one from the last GB then (autoswitching). He bought it from one of the people in the last GB. He was asking me questions about installation and such a few months ago. This version should have no problem in the high end. The spark stays very strong on this setup. It still suffers from the heating issue like the simple circuit. The heating is worse at low rpm/idle. If you keep the RPM up and keep idle time short, the life of the ignitor will be extended. Since it is one of mine, I will still provide a discount if you do decide to get the newer board.

Kent

Roundabout

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would it be possible to time it without using a light? I want to get it close enough so I can drive it around till friday when I can afford a light. If I can, which way do I turn the dizzy to advance?

gsl-se addict

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Clockwise (looking down from the top) will advance it. Maybe you can find a friend/neighbor that has a timing light that you could borrow. Only takes like 5 minutes to set it.

Kentetsu

Yep, just crank it clockwise a bit and take her for a spin. If you start hearing high rpm noises like somebody shaking a coffee can full of bolts, then you'll know you've gone to far. For some reason, the installation of the TT unit retards the timing. When you get that set, just make sure you hang on tight...

Roundabout

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I went to the transmission shop down the hwy and they let me hook up their light they had in the shop. Shes set now and runs smoothly to redline...but I didn't notice any increase in power Is it supposed to be that noticeable?

Roundabout

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maybe I'll go out after american idol and advance it a little since its dead on right now

Kentetsu

Yes, it should be very noticeable. You're on the right track though, try some more advance (they seem to like that with the TT). You should get to the point where she pulls very hard right up to 8k (as long as your fuel system can keep up). Have you changed your filter lately?

Are you using 2nd gen plugs? Not really necessary, but recommended. And I did see improvement when I swithed to 2nd gen plugs.

Roundabout

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replaced the fuel filter when I installed an aftermarket pump this winter in March...its an airtex 5-9psi pump (was going to buy a holley, but decided to wait for sterling....still waiting=)
Using 2nd gen plugs also, leading and trailing.

I went out and advanced it and it seems to have more power, not a whole lot more, but very noticeable now. I'll post pics tomorrow of my setup including my ignitor cooler.
Thanks for the help guys!
Justin