They mount at the back of the car by the muffler.

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http://ststurbo.com/inc/iview/461?idx=5&p=4149

Is this going to work?

 

i've heard of it on camaro's... dunno how well it works.. i'd think thered be quite a bit of lag with all that piping...

 

Saw those in a Chevy mag about a month ago. it's a neat idea,has nobody ever done this before?



--Alex

 

Those where on 2 guys garage. They gave the Camero a 150hp boost. It just seems that they are in the open way too much. It does replace your muffler tho!

 

im sure there is a reason turbos were not made this to begin with. if this is so great then why havent they been making like this all along?

 

Nice dent in the driveshaft of that camaro.

I'd never put the turbo in the back of my car unless the engine was back there. What is there to gain? There sure is a lot to lose.

 

I wonder If the air filter gets wet....lol

 

$4K? No thanks.

 

the only advantage of that I can see is when you pop your hood people not being able to recognize that you have a turbo right away... To answer the question about water doesnt the k&n filter shown on it shed water off because it has a special coating... Looks similar to on atvs... Besides that I dont think its worth it, all the piping all the way to the back of the car really adds up $$$... If your gonna go turbo just do it the proven method...

I also agree that this turbo would have more turbo lag then a turbo mounted on an exhaust manifold. The exhaust would take longer to reach the back mounted turbo then it would if it was just leaving the combustion chamber. Equalling turbo lag, longer time to spool up

 

hm maybe the camaro doesn't have enough room under the hood for a turbo or 2?? even the 3.8l and 3.4l v6's can't come out from the top... they gotta be removed from the engine from the bottom, meaning u gotta lift the car off them... least with the newer camaro's, not the pre what 96 one? whatever the new body style is, they r basically wrapped around the engine...

 

It may not be that bad. They don't need to run an intercooler since the turbos probably run a lot cooler under the car and in the back. That lets them run slightly smaller diameter piping and they probably end up with less than a psi pressure drop....thats totally acceptable.
They are'nt looking to make more than 10 psi (if that) or push more than 6000rpm, so they probably went with a turbo design that spools up quickly but doesnt flow super high which has a good chance of driving nice.

I'm not saying I'd do it, but it might not be that bad for some.

 

They make them for GM trucks also. It's a proven setup, many of the guys on LS1tech and GM-Truck have one and like it. It's not the end all turbo set-up for HP but it provides an easy to install boost in power over stock, not sure if you could go to far with it. If you think about it the filter is about as low as most airbox pick-ups nowadays. It's nice and works but not for the price, usually the price of a turbo kit is high because of the level of complex intergration while these are bolt on pipe turbos.

Vernon

 

Remember one thing guys (Especially in California) = These are CARB Legal, and 50 State Legal, as they bolt on AFTER your Catalytic converters..

 

The things that would worry me is; water in the airfilter, oil line - you need a pump from the turbo drain to the oil pan and turbo lag. But it seems like they worked through all of those problems. It might be worth a shot.

 

As I understand it, another advantage to this setup is no oil line to the turbo. The exhaust has cooled down enough by the time it reaches it, it's not needed.

 

Doesn't the oil plumbed to a turbocharger also keep it lubricated? If so how is that taken care of?

Also, I'd imagine that a significant amount of heat comes from the friction of rotation and from building pressure. Pressurizing things makes them hot and depressurizing them makes them cold.

 

It still needs oil to spin - it'll die in a couple of minutes w/o oil. What it doesn't need is a water line which some people including myself don't run on a traditional setup.

 

My understanding of the setup is oil is in the turbo and kept sealed in there. With heat not being a issue it last a great deal longer than it would in a engine bay.