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Old May 14, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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If you really want to do something like that I would try to find an actual locker set up, if they ever made them.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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I bought a clean SA shell that was used as a drag car once, and it had the spiders welded up. Needless to say I replaced that chunk of crap within a few weeks of driving the car...the car was almost undrivable at higher speeds because the rearend would break loose at every corner. Also, you get a lot of unwanted attention when your tire breaks loose and squeals and/or chirps in parking lots and low speed turns. If you wanted straight line power, this is awesome, but for turns, it absolutely sucks. YMMV...
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Old May 14, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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That's exactly why I don't like welding the spider gear's... you're burnin' rubber around every corner.

Not cool and that gets really expencive after a while.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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Yea but like it was mentioned in his other thread, if you run stagger in the tires, you can tune out the problem.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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When you're under heavy acceleration/braking/cornering the tires are slipping anyway. Max grip is generally attained with up to 10% slippage.

So except for really sharp low-speed corners, the tires won't notice the difference since they're always slipping anyway.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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You mean slip angle, not actual slippage right?

Again, the correct stagger for the track turn radius and banking will compensate for the different turn radii. Youl'll just need a set of tires for each track.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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Actual slippage. Tires generate traction by interlocking with the ground, and the process of achieving this involves the tread "slipping" across the ground. We're not talking about friction, we're talking about traction.

Slip angles are just a nice way of describing this phenomenon as it pertains to cornering.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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Gotcha, just making sure we're on the same page.

BTW- I see you paruse the Eng Dyn forums TOO eh?
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Old May 15, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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Only for the past two or so years.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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Unfortunatly i can't run stagger, my tires have to be the same size.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 04:35 AM
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you need aproximately 400 hp to reveal any benifits of a locked centre. this is to power through and out corners you get a good posative oversteer ending up in needing less turning of the steering wheels. Therefor getting better corner speed. Any less power and this can't be acheived..
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