Weighed my base model '85.
No aluminum in these older cars, makes a difference. Its still a very light car for how rigid it is.
Is this a 13b or 12a in your 85 ? GSL-SE ?
With the 13b its power to weight ratio stock is better than the hondas. With the 12a if you swap in a better exhaust with headers and a freer breathing carb setup your beating that honda as well. What your beef ? Its also a hell of lot better looking than that Civic and it handles a lot better.
Is this a 13b or 12a in your 85 ? GSL-SE ?
With the 13b its power to weight ratio stock is better than the hondas. With the 12a if you swap in a better exhaust with headers and a freer breathing carb setup your beating that honda as well. What your beef ? Its also a hell of lot better looking than that Civic and it handles a lot better.
Originally Posted by t_g_farrell
No aluminum in these older cars, makes a difference. Its still a very light car for how rigid it is.
Is this a 13b or 12a in your 85 ? GSL-SE ?
With the 13b its power to weight ratio stock is better than the hondas. With the 12a if you swap in a better exhaust with headers and a freer breathing carb setup your beating that honda as well. What your beef ? Its also a hell of lot better looking than that Civic and it handles a lot better.
Is this a 13b or 12a in your 85 ? GSL-SE ?
With the 13b its power to weight ratio stock is better than the hondas. With the 12a if you swap in a better exhaust with headers and a freer breathing carb setup your beating that honda as well. What your beef ? Its also a hell of lot better looking than that Civic and it handles a lot better.
Originally Posted by O 16581 72452 5
Came to 2,320, 40lbs more than my '95 EX Coupe (heaviest of all the 92-95 Civics)
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.The driveshaft/propeller shaft and pumpkin weigh a couple hundred combined.
Also, the rear hatch on an RX is quite heavy.
Plus, as t_g_farrell indicated, there is a 10 year gap in manufacturing methods.
Originally Posted by t_g_farrell
No aluminum in these older cars, makes a difference. Its still a very light car for how rigid it is.
Is this a 13b or 12a in your 85 ? GSL-SE ?
Is this a 13b or 12a in your 85 ? GSL-SE ?
It's not an -SE, he already said base model...
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Originally Posted by smnc
Was that dry weight? Sounds a bit light for an -SE?
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Originally Posted by t_g_farrell
No aluminum in these older cars, makes a difference. Its still a very light car for how rigid it is.
Is this a 13b or 12a in your 85 ? GSL-SE ?
With the 13b its power to weight ratio stock is better than the hondas. With the 12a if you swap in a better exhaust with headers and a freer breathing carb setup your beating that honda as well. What your beef ? Its also a hell of lot better looking than that Civic and it handles a lot better.
Is this a 13b or 12a in your 85 ? GSL-SE ?
With the 13b its power to weight ratio stock is better than the hondas. With the 12a if you swap in a better exhaust with headers and a freer breathing carb setup your beating that honda as well. What your beef ? Its also a hell of lot better looking than that Civic and it handles a lot better.
Besides, what's your beef against Hondas? I never said anything bad about Rx-7s, however, you're talking down on Civics.
I hope by "beating that honda" you're not talking about mine specifically, because I/H/E isn't going to be close.
I found it interesting that a '95 fully loaded model was lighter than a stripped '85 model is all.
i open the doors on the 7 and they weigh a ton, on my 1989 323 GTX they are light as hell
GTX (awd turbo 323) weighs 2800.
and it is no suprise the civic weighs less its much newer,
i put a 4 point front strut bar on my 7 and while jacked the doors match perfect, they used to not however.
edit: yea it is RWD too so the rear end and shaft and even the tranny are bigger.
so im sure it is a lighter chassis eh?
GTX (awd turbo 323) weighs 2800.
and it is no suprise the civic weighs less its much newer,
i put a 4 point front strut bar on my 7 and while jacked the doors match perfect, they used to not however.
edit: yea it is RWD too so the rear end and shaft and even the tranny are bigger.
so im sure it is a lighter chassis eh?
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Originally Posted by dirty86
i open the doors on the 7 and they weigh a ton, on my 1989 323 GTX they are light as hell
GTX (awd turbo 323) weighs 2800.
and it is no suprise the civic weighs less its much newer,
i put a 4 point front strut bar on my 7 and while jacked the doors match perfect, they used to not however.
edit: yea it is RWD too so the rear end and shaft and even the tranny are bigger.
so im sure it is a lighter chassis eh?
GTX (awd turbo 323) weighs 2800.
and it is no suprise the civic weighs less its much newer,
i put a 4 point front strut bar on my 7 and while jacked the doors match perfect, they used to not however.
edit: yea it is RWD too so the rear end and shaft and even the tranny are bigger.
so im sure it is a lighter chassis eh?
Originally Posted by O 16581 72452 5
The chassis of Rx-7's aren't as rigid as you think, when i jack the car up, the doors won't open or close properly.
More on topic though, where did you have your civic weighed? Curb weight on a 95 EX is 2443lb. Thats about the same as an 85 RX-7 base is supposed to be.
Originally Posted by dirty86
i open the doors on the 7 and they weigh a ton, on my 1989 323 GTX they are light as hell
GTX (awd turbo 323) weighs 2800.
and it is no suprise the civic weighs less its much newer,
i put a 4 point front strut bar on my 7 and while jacked the doors match perfect, they used to not however.
edit: yea it is RWD too so the rear end and shaft and even the tranny are bigger.
so im sure it is a lighter chassis eh?
GTX (awd turbo 323) weighs 2800.
and it is no suprise the civic weighs less its much newer,
i put a 4 point front strut bar on my 7 and while jacked the doors match perfect, they used to not however.
edit: yea it is RWD too so the rear end and shaft and even the tranny are bigger.
so im sure it is a lighter chassis eh?
here:
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/323BuyersGuide.htm
CJG
Originally Posted by dirty86
i open the doors on the 7 and they weigh a ton, on my 1989 323 GTX they are light as hell
GTX (awd turbo 323) weighs 2800.
and it is no suprise the civic weighs less its much newer,
i put a 4 point front strut bar on my 7 and while jacked the doors match perfect, they used to not however.
edit: yea it is RWD too so the rear end and shaft and even the tranny are bigger.
so im sure it is a lighter chassis eh?
GTX (awd turbo 323) weighs 2800.
and it is no suprise the civic weighs less its much newer,
i put a 4 point front strut bar on my 7 and while jacked the doors match perfect, they used to not however.
edit: yea it is RWD too so the rear end and shaft and even the tranny are bigger.
so im sure it is a lighter chassis eh?
Yeah your right about the weight of the doors on the Rx7 I took some doors off a Parts car the other day and they at least have to be 60 lbs or more I will weigh them when I get a chance. I never thought they weighed that much.
Wieght reduction is for SERIOUS RACERS WHO KNOW HOW TO DO IT RIGHT no NORMAL driver will notice a difference, not only that, but these cars were almost 50/50 weight distribution from the factory, WHY GO F THAT UP? Seriously when a race team takes weight off a car they usually balast the weight elsewhere.. Did you even the weight ratio back out? Everyone starts yanking pumps/pullies, storage bins ect making the car look unfinished and they end up with arguably worse handling. THere is a WRONG way to modify your car, yanking everything out without proper knowlage is one of those wrong ways to do it.
Originally Posted by Rotortuner
I have an 88gtx. Im pretty sure they weight like 2640, not 2800. did you weigh yours?
here:
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/323BuyersGuide.htm
CJG
here:
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/323BuyersGuide.htm
CJG
mines got a cage and heavy rally suspension , big skid plate and under body protection

i havent weighd my stock one....
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Originally Posted by 85rotarypower
How many miles are on your 7? This is actually kinda scary because even before I fixed all the underbody rust on my 82 GSL I could open the doors just fine with 1 corner of the car jacked up.
More on topic though, where did you have your civic weighed? Curb weight on a 95 EX is 2443lb. Thats about the same as an 85 RX-7 base is supposed to be.
More on topic though, where did you have your civic weighed? Curb weight on a 95 EX is 2443lb. Thats about the same as an 85 RX-7 base is supposed to be.
Originally Posted by dirty86
mines got a cage and heavy rally suspension , big skid plate and under body protection

i havent weighd my stock one....

i havent weighd my stock one....
CJG
Originally Posted by RRTEC
Wieght reduction is for SERIOUS RACERS WHO KNOW HOW TO DO IT RIGHT no NORMAL driver will notice a difference, not only that, but these cars were almost 50/50 weight distribution from the factory, WHY GO F THAT UP? Seriously when a race team takes weight off a car they usually balast the weight elsewhere.. Did you even the weight ratio back out? Everyone starts yanking pumps/pullies, storage bins ect making the car look unfinished and they end up with arguably worse handling. THere is a WRONG way to modify your car, yanking everything out without proper knowlage is one of those wrong ways to do it.
My point is, the car was not originally 50/50 weight distribution. Taking weight off the front end is most likely going to help in all aspects, and if you can take enough off the front (100 lbs), you can also remove about half that in the rear to even out the weight distribution a little more.
As for my car, even with the weight redux I'm doing, I still expect the car to weigh in at 2400 lbs. The metal I used to fix the rust holes was not light metal and I probably gained 50lbs from it.
Last edited by 85rotarypower; Oct 15, 2005 at 01:39 AM.




, my 84 gs was 2030 with alot of weight reduction