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Water Temperature Sensor Broke off in the engine.:mad:

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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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Water Temperature Sensor Broke off in the engine.:mad:

I was installing a new water temperature sensor a few days ago and the thing just snapped off in the block. I hardly applied any torque to it, less then half as much as I used to loosen the old one, and that came out pretty easily. Are the temperate sensors usually this delicate? How much torque should I use on these things? (Once I get the broken one out and buy another one, that is). I don't seem to remember having these difficulties a year ago when I was putting the engine in.

Also, I had to remove the oil pressure sensor to get to it, and after this I'm wondering just how much torque this guy will take. I've also forgotten whether I need to use gasket maker on the pressure sensor or not.

Any help from those have done either of these jobs before would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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With these engine blocks being aluminum, you don't need to apply that much pressure, especially with sensor fittings. You could use a little bit of the teflon goo on the fittings. And as far as how tight: snug them down (with a wrench) and then about 1/4 to 1/2 a turn more to tighten it.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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extractor but dotn use it with a drill. just tap it in slightly until it catches, then turn in counter clockwise by a small adjustable wrench/plier
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 02:32 AM
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It's a tapered thread. You're not supposed to torque it.
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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I use either a teflon based pipe joint compound, or the good ole gray lead/lindseed oil joint compound found at any hardware store. The teflon compound works better since it doesn't harden/set as much as the gray sealer will due to heat cycling.
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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I've broken one in an engine once. I lightly tapped in an easy out and got it out. It had straight threads.

REVHED, read this (scroll to bottom). Some had tapered threads. Most have straight. http://www.mazdatrix.com/79-85Electrical-Engine.htm
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Hate bringing a 3 year-old dead thread to the top but I did the same dang thing this weekend. The Temp sensor took a decent amount of pressure to get it lossened, I swear the new one I didn't even tighten the thing and it broke off. I am going to try Jeff20B's idea, but has anyone else had the sensor snap off? I can think of better things to waste 20 bucks on then a broken sensor
Bryan
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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85fb: the housing he's putting the sensor in isn't aluminum.

the sensor body is brass and will break easily. it should thread in fairly easily unless u got it cross threaded the reason u had to wrench it in, or the threads in the housing were dirty. it seals by the washer under it, it's not a pipe thread so there's no taper. i broke mine off during assembly after rebuild only because i didn't plug the hole during the painting process. it broke just before it got to the washer. so i got a mechanical gauge kit and put the probe in the back of the wp.

edit: just realized this was an old thread til after posting. didn't even read thru it all.
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