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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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Water temp install question

Thinking of installing a aftermarket water temp gauge. Just wondering if i should go with electric or mechanical? Also whats the best place to install it on the engine? If anyone has pics that would be great. TIA
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 01:40 AM
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You need to tap it with 3/8.
in back of water pump housing
front side plate (driver side) - remove the allen head bolt.
T-stat cover.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 02:03 AM
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or just get a electric gauge and splice into the wire just left of the oil sender below the oil filler cap.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 02:14 AM
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I went with mechanical.

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 02:19 AM
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Here is the guage sender zoomed-in.

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 05:08 AM
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I have an electrical. No need to tap anything. On the drivers side of the motor near the botom under where your AC is or not is a hex head screw that is for draining the cooling system or for a block heater. Take this screw out and an Autometer temp sensor will screw right in.

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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The thread size is close but tap is better since your dealing with 2 different thread pitch. metric vs. npt. Just my $0.02.


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I have an electrical. No need to tap anything. On the drivers side of the motor near the botom under where your AC is or not is a hex head screw that is for draining the cooling system or for a block heater. Take this screw out and an Autometer temp sensor will screw right in.

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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The good ol' t-sta cover.

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Here is the guage sender zoomed-in.

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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In the back of the Waterpump housing on the Carb cars is a sensor, it is not used if you have and aftermarket carb.

get the Sunpro adapter set, there is a bushing in the kit that goes right in. and then use an electric guage.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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I tried both ways and got a 5 Degree Difference???
Why for is that?
And which one will be more accurate?
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff20B
Here is the guage sender zoomed-in.

What t-stat cover is that from? I dont remember the 12A cars having one like that.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sgieldon
I tried both ways and got a 5 Degree Difference???
Why for is that?
And which one will be more accurate?
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Which both ways?
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Hades12
What t-stat cover is that from? I dont remember the 12A cars having one like that.

found on pre-81 cars, mostly old school rotaries.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Hades12
In the back of the Waterpump housing on the Carb cars is a sensor, it is not used if you have and aftermarket carb.

get the Sunpro adapter set, there is a bushing in the kit that goes right in. and then use an electric guage.
exactly how i did mine. the wp housing already has taped holes in it wheather it has a sensor in it or an allen head plug in it. the sunpro guage has all the adaptors u'll need.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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No disrespect but SUNPRO & AUTOGAGE are junks. It will not give ya an accurate reading since the t-coupler is not sealed like the EQUUS, AUTOMETER, S&M. On a stop and go traffic, it will pick up additional heat from the engine compartment.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Why for is that?
Not english, but it sounds cool.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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This is the kit.

http://www.sunpro.com/product_detail.php?pid=16338


It just changes the hole to 1/8 NTP, you can use any guage you would like.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Jeff...love that idea. Is the pre 81 thermostat compatable with a 84?
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by John64
Why for is that?
Not english, but it sounds cool.

how about this universal language.

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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 02:17 AM
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I think '71 to '92 thermostats are all the same. Get a genuine Mazda unit. DO NOT get a Stant. They friggin suck. As for the thermostat cover, or whatever it's called, yeah, '78 and older rotaries had them. Mine already had a BSP plug so I simply unscrewed it and cut new threads in the cover with an NPT tap. It went pretty smoothly. Some covers are undrilled.

The thermocouple fitting shown in my pic is for an Autometer guage. It's fairly nice looking and seems accurate compared to the reading from my MegaSquirt.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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nice job Jeff. Is that the GLC or ?
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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It is. If it turns out to be too much engine for it, I'll probably just put it in a 1st gen. Talk about too much engine. Well, maybe.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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John....do you have any better pics of where the screw is? I cant seem to find it.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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Its a hex head so you will not be able to see it. It is under where your AC would be at. Hope that helps.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wackyracer
No disrespect but SUNPRO & AUTOGAGE are junks. It will not give ya an accurate reading since the t-coupler is not sealed like the EQUUS, AUTOMETER, S&M. On a stop and go traffic, it will pick up additional heat from the engine compartment.
what's this t-coupler u speak of. u mean the part that secures the probe inside the fitting in the back of the w/p housing? acording to the gauge with fan running in stop-n-go traffic, temp is alittle above 180. since i have nothing to compare it to, that's normal range, right? i think there's some accuracy to it, the probe is actually in the coolant. if anything, it would absorb heat being mounted in the housing. at the time, i needed something inexpensive that would do since putting the engine in the car and breaking the coolant sensor off from paint being in the hole.
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