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Originally Posted by MarkPerez
a composite hood is worthless if it's not lighter then a steel hood..
Anywho, here are some pics of a test skin pulled from the mould. There's no substructure yet, so it's flexed a bit, but gives you an idea of shape & finish.
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Originally Posted by 82transam
the gel coat will fill all the minor imperfections (like air bubbles etc) right, so all we'll have to do is sand it down and shoot paint right?
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mantis I am interested in what the frame part is designed like. where are the suports placed? I am going ahead and doing with the slant rad. The hood it looks very atractive but I think I may need the leading edge of the vents to be a little farther foward with the slant setup. what is the dim from the front edge of the hood to the front edge of the vent? it would be a shame to get something that nice and end up haveing to cut it up for it to work. go ahead and set it on your car and post the pics. it would look better.
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the vents are designed to be right behind the stock fan setup - if you slant your rad forward, they'll be about 6 inches behind the rad.
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looks reeeeeeaaaaaalllly good, but ill be honest, this is taking forever (not blamming you, i understand it takes a long time) therefore my funds for this have been spent on other things like brakes (probably more important anyways)
hopefully when you have this thing out ill have some money for it.
hopefully when you have this thing out ill have some money for it.
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mantis how far (whats the dim) front of hood to leading edge of vent?
I am working on the brackets for the slant rad right now.
what does the suport frame for the underside look like?
I am working on the brackets for the slant rad right now.
what does the suport frame for the underside look like?
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I think he's shooting for a stock hood sub-structure looking, were the the X-bracing stops at the vents.. at least i would do it that way underside.
and you should know i understand the goal, but hell if it's vents you want, vent the stock hood, oh you want the carbon fibre/vented hood look.. the point of replacing (and many people agree here)a steel part with one made of composite
material is to save the weight. ****, a fibreglass hood should be 16-18 lbs. max.
why would a composite piece weigh as much as metal.. it shouldn't. composites are as strong as metal at half the weight. thats how it came about.. your guy does good work and should have said something about the weight(s) really,i'm not bustin your *****, man. the less weight, the more money saved per hood in materials for the same results. i mean how thick is the top? wait.. your doing the fibreglass in gel-coat and the carbon in resin(s) gel-coat is what weighs the most
and yep. can be sprayed,
and you should know i understand the goal, but hell if it's vents you want, vent the stock hood, oh you want the carbon fibre/vented hood look.. the point of replacing (and many people agree here)a steel part with one made of composite
material is to save the weight. ****, a fibreglass hood should be 16-18 lbs. max.
why would a composite piece weigh as much as metal.. it shouldn't. composites are as strong as metal at half the weight. thats how it came about.. your guy does good work and should have said something about the weight(s) really,i'm not bustin your *****, man. the less weight, the more money saved per hood in materials for the same results. i mean how thick is the top? wait.. your doing the fibreglass in gel-coat and the carbon in resin(s) gel-coat is what weighs the most
and yep. can be sprayed,
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3 mat top skin, 2 mat brace layer... but then there's the metal added for the hood latch, hood latch load dispersal plate, hinge attachment plates, and prop rod receiver.
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i'm sorry man, it's sounding too over engineered, sugar frosted. why mat cloth?
it may be cheaper but chopped strand is much stronger, by design. consider this to help save weight. hinge points : Aluminum, 16 guage, 2 1/2 X 10 inch strip.
drill 2 holes aligned with stock mounting bolts, 2 aluminum nuts, mig,tig weld the aluminum nuts to the strip over the holes. to disburce latch load, a aluminum one piece drop-in box. with latch 'pin' going through the drop-in box for even 'pin' loads.
think about it,, why does every hood have to come with the mounting hardware. some people may not want to mount the hood that way and use hood pins. should be an option. open vents, non-open vents, mounting hardware or without.
that will save you money too.
for the dollors asked for the carbon hoods the sub-structure had better be carbon too, no short cuts using a FPR sub-structure while the top is carbon... right ?
it may be cheaper but chopped strand is much stronger, by design. consider this to help save weight. hinge points : Aluminum, 16 guage, 2 1/2 X 10 inch strip.
drill 2 holes aligned with stock mounting bolts, 2 aluminum nuts, mig,tig weld the aluminum nuts to the strip over the holes. to disburce latch load, a aluminum one piece drop-in box. with latch 'pin' going through the drop-in box for even 'pin' loads.
think about it,, why does every hood have to come with the mounting hardware. some people may not want to mount the hood that way and use hood pins. should be an option. open vents, non-open vents, mounting hardware or without.
that will save you money too.
for the dollors asked for the carbon hoods the sub-structure had better be carbon too, no short cuts using a FPR sub-structure while the top is carbon... right ?
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Originally Posted by MarkPerez
i'm sorry man, it's sounding too over engineered
Originally Posted by MarkPerez
think about it,, why does every hood have to come with the mounting hardware.
Originally Posted by MarkPerez
for the dollors asked for the carbon hoods the sub-structure had better be carbon too, no short cuts using a FPR sub-structure while the top is carbon... right ?
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ok this has probaly been asked before, but im at work and can go searching through forums...can i get a hood with out all of the mounting hardware?
just a suguestion...can you put all of this info on rotorhead.ca? i just feel bad asking questions that may have already been asked....like a composite hood FAQ...im also afraid of repost reprisal.
just a suguestion...can you put all of this info on rotorhead.ca? i just feel bad asking questions that may have already been asked....like a composite hood FAQ...im also afraid of repost reprisal.
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The mounting hardware is a latch & plate, a metal ring to receive the prop rod, and two strips of metal with incorporated nuts to accept the hinges. These are incorporated in the design of the substructure and, if deleted, would leave an incomplete underside.