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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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turbo or super charging a fb?

which one should i do? im buying a 1st gen and i dont kno what i should do. my dad had one and it was all motor and it was a high 10 low 11 car. but i want to be different and run either a super charger or turbo. i've had ppl tell me turbo is better and some say super charger is better. so what you guys think?
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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it depends on your budget, this question's been asked a few times before, myself i prefer turbo cuz of the ability to have an i/c but that's just me.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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a 10 second all motor fb? man that must have been stripped and ported to the max
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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pretty much, it was light enough to pick up the rear end.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by blackdeath647
it depends on your budget, this question's been asked a few times before, myself i prefer turbo cuz of the ability to have an i/c but that's just me.
Ummm....you do know that having an intercooler has nothing to do with whether a car is supercharged or turbo'd, right?
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 01:43 AM
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Ummm....you do know that having an intercooler has nothing to do with whether a car is supercharged or turbo'd, right?
you do know that the OP asked opinions?... and due to the fact that there arent many SC kits for the Fb and the one that is available isnt Intercooled.. so yes with a fb it really does have something to do with whether it is SC or turbo dependent on goals and such.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:32 AM
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^^ thank you.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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If fast quarter-miles are all you're interested in, the traditional rule is supercharger rather than turbo, due to the zero-lag characteristic of an SC.

If you're looking for something more well-rounded, for road racing, that seems to be where turbos rule the day. I think this has to do more with durability & less mechanical load on a decelerating engine with the turbo. but I'm not an expert there.

Leastwise, that's my understanding.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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i would say turbo because enough people have done it that if you had problems you could get answers relatively quick.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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I know I've posted something like this before, but I don't feel like digging up the old post.

Supercharger (assuming you get the Atkins kit)

Pros: Instant-on boost, very easy installation, can use your current exhaust system if you already have a nice one, cool supercharger whine

Cons: Limited power capability, adds rotating mass to the engine, makes for very hot intake temps

Turbo

Pros: Large variety available, huge power potential, quiets the exhaust somewhat, cool spooling and blow-off valve sounds

Cons: No kits available so you'll have to make your own, takes longer for boost to build, throttle response not instantaneous, requires a boost-prepped carb or EFI, must redo the exhaust
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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sweet thanks guys, eh i might go for turbo, like how the guy Directfreaks fb is on youtube. funny vids.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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Just a comment and it may not apply for you, but if you do have a good flowing exhaust system on the car now (I had a RB streetport system) and you do decide to go turbo you can tie your downpipe into your existing exhaust and dont have to pay for a full exhaust upgrade. Good Luck.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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Being a camden owner you would think I would say go camden and thats it. Someone posted that the s/c would be better in the 1/4 mile, aaaaah, nope. The s/c is cool, driveability great, and simple as hell, so for me it is a great choice for many. "However", nobody has yet to surpass 210 rwhp with a camden. Now with a standalone, porting and proper turbo selection you can push 350 out of a 13b very easily, but that all cost $$$$$$. One a 12a bad83 and yetterben have succesfully run a s4 turbo blowthrough set up quite reasonably and had great results. These guys are great at supporting others as well.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DivinDriver
If fast quarter-miles are all you're interested in, the traditional rule is supercharger rather than turbo, due to the zero-lag characteristic of an SC. . .
I think SCs are more common in drag racing because of two things: 1) Top Fuel uses them, so others copy them and 2) the overall setup is simpler and cheaper

As for Top Fuel using them -- they don't use them because they're better -- they use them because the rules don't allow turbos. If the rules changed tomorrow, you wouldn't see a supercharger in that class; they'd all run turbos.

As for the cost aspect -- there's a penalty for a turbo.

I don't think you'll find a supercharger used in any racing class where turbos are allowed.

After blowing up a motor, and following all the stories of others that have suffered with this, and hearing about the durability of the NA 3 rotors used in endurance racing, I can say that I would have gone with a hot NA 3 rotor if I had to do it all again. It should be capable of well over 300 HP in streetable form, and it'll take all the abuse you can throw at it.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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12a bad83 and yetterben have succesfully run a s4 turbo blowthrough set up quite reasonably and had great results. These guys are great at supporting others as well.
I dont mind helping anyone going this route as well.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Yetterben told me his turbo setup was not very streetable. It wouldn't kick in until 4k, at which point the wheels would break loose and his 1/4 mile times sucked. That's what I remember from our conversation. He had a boost prepped Nikki.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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I drive mine daily. No problems. Fast enough to beat a lotus Elise on the straights. But kind enough to drive during rush hour.
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