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Old 09-13-04, 09:14 PM
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Turbo Gsl-se Engine?!

I'm wondering what it would take to turbocharge the 13-B RE engine in the GSL-SE?

Possible? What does it take?

The SE has the heavier rotors, which make for a MUCH lower RPM torque peak. This makes the car a blast to drive around town. But, it could certainly use alot more than the stock 135 horsepower.

Anybody got any input?
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there's a website that many ppl have done it before, i've heard that on the stock se engine u can use a stock turbo off a turbo II, however hooking up the turbo and manifold requires some modifcation due to the lower part of the intake being 2 close to the turbo housing when bolting it up
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PM web777

he has a turbo GSL-SE using cartech kit on the stock motor w/ emissions as well
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the gsl-se does not have a 13bRE motor, that is the motor in the 3rd gens
the -se just has a plain old 13b that is EFI....

i heard its a pain to turbo using the stock injection also..
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It's not that hard. Get a turbo manifold (TII won't fit), turbo, fuel pump and a Cartech or Vortech FMU and you are good for 6 lbs!


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wait a second, using STOCK EVERYTHING and just a fuel pump and FMU you can boost a gsl-se's induction 6lbs?

and does the tII turbo and **** just not clear the intake manifold?
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and are you just doing blowthrough the airflow meter?

please aim me at gregs1981 i have MANY questions for you if you are a paitent guy
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No the TII manifold will not fit. What's you're Yahoo Messenger id?
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don't keep that good stuff from all of us... i wanna know too..

unsupa on yahoo, just in case.
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how come t2 ex. mani. won't fit. is it because you cant use it w/ stock 13b SE?
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because it sits the turbo too high and hits the lower intake manifold.
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that shouldn't be a problem for a complete t2 swap then though
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you're correct!
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wonder if its a problem for a Racing Beat Holley manifold... might as well test fit it tomorrow when i build my SE engine... since i got a 89-91 Turbo/exhaust manifold
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i was worried my BAE/rajayt-04 combo wouldnt fit, it fit JUST BARELY, it was practicaly touching the intake manifold, this was on my old 12a turbo car i built
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hey web, are you still using the exhaust pressure opened 5-6th ports with your setup?
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web777, i'm also curious... what parts did you all need.. could you list them, and also how much hp are you making, and how many kms on your engine.. rebuilt or original?

6lbs boost :

T2 turbo (stock is fine?)
turbo manifold (other than T2)(suggestions?)
Cartech or Vortech FMU (what settings?)
upgraded fuel pump (AND injectors??)
upgraded ignition?
intercooler required for 6psi or not?

I'm pretty excited for your setup, looks sweet.
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Originally Posted by Gregs
wait a second, using STOCK EVERYTHING and just a fuel pump and FMU you can boost a gsl-se's induction 6lbs?

and does the tII turbo and **** just not clear the intake manifold?

I have seen many write ups on putting the turboII turbo system on a GSL-SE.
Stop being so lazy, search for it in the forums and on the web.
You can use the stock TurboII system, I don't remember the details regarding the modifications neccessary but it was only a small amount of grinding in order for there to be clearance when bolting the manifold to the motor.
As far as everything else goes all you need is of course a downpipe welded up by a shop and a fuel pressure regulator so you can feed the injectors better. You can go up to 7 or 8 psi of boost with all stock stuff without having to upgrade the fuel pump, though a fuel pump upgrade is always a good thing.
Good luck with your project.
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IIRC a spacer will allow the s5 exuast mani/turbo to clear the LIM
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Originally Posted by wwilliam54
IIRC a spacer will allow the s5 exuast mani/turbo to clear the LIM
it should, but who makes the spacer for it??
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Originally Posted by Gregs
hey web, are you still using the exhaust pressure opened 5-6th ports with your setup?
I can't. The turbo hits the actuators. I would've hooked it up to the manifild pressure if I was able to.
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Originally Posted by hotty
web777, i'm also curious... what parts did you all need.. could you list them, and also how much hp are you making, and how many kms on your engine.. rebuilt or original?

6lbs boost :

T2 turbo (stock is fine?)
turbo manifold (other than T2)(suggestions?)
Cartech or Vortech FMU (what settings?)
upgraded fuel pump (AND injectors??)
upgraded ignition?
intercooler required for 6psi or not?

I'm pretty excited for your setup, looks sweet.
Daryl
200K on stock motor
TO4 turbo
Cartech manifold
Vortech 12:1 FMU
Stock injectors
MSD ign
Intercooler not required but very helpful
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Originally Posted by d0 Luck
it should, but who makes the spacer for it??
you buy a 13b exhasut flange or 2 from www.racingbeat.com and get longer studs and your set
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web, so all you did was put a msd box on and didnt lock the dizzy?


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