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Old 08-31-04, 12:53 AM
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is this true???

I was reading a post where someone said about gsl-se's
"They start at 135 HP from the factory with a broad torque band starting in the low RPMs. Change the intake filter to a free-flowing K&N, bolt on a Racing Beat header and exhaust system (eliminating the cats) and you're up in the 165 - 180 HP range before you've even touched the engine itself"
no offence to the person who wrote this, but I dont know you personally, and a LOT of people exaggerate, so I just wanted to double check, no offence
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sounds pretty logical to me, especially seeing as a GSL-SE has a 6 port 13B, and when the 5th and 6th ports open, its gonna love all the added airflow, and exhaust will always give you plenty more power
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Sounds about right to me. I dunno about a full 180, but in that range.
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If it was true you wouldn't see so many folks running carb'd GSL-SEs.
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Originally Posted by bouis
If it was true you wouldn't see so many folks running carb'd GSL-SEs.
heh the only reason i'm carb'ing hte SE motor in my 84 GSL is because its easier than running a SE's ECU and wiring all that stuff up.. i can see no other benefits of running a carb on an SE honestly. fuel injection is the way to go imo.
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well my fiance just totally freaked me out. She knows how frustrated I am about my car, how its driving me nuts and becoming a constant source of stress. She told me that if I can wait until next spring/summer, she'll get me an SE as a wedding present.
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Cone intake, RB single exhaust, MSD, 6 ports removed got me 131.6 RWHP 117.2 RWT on a stock 13B block with 115k on her.
6 port sleeves, adjust timing and a few other things might get a bit more.
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Fuel injection is the way to go, but it's not going to get you nearly the horsepower that a carb would unless you replace the stock computer.
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Originally Posted by bouis
Fuel injection is the way to go, but it's not going to get you nearly the horsepower that a carb would unless you replace the stock computer.
a carb will give you more power yes, but only because you can dump as much fuel u want in going the carb route... fuel injection will get you more power with the same amount of fuel as a carb... even if u don't replace the stock computer, couldn't you replace injectors, since they work on a duty cycle(80% for FC's, what is it for FB's? 80?) and get more fuel that way
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All I'm saying is that an exhaust and a cone filter isn't going to get you 165-180hp.
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it was a nice thought anyway
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i bet you could hit 165 at the flywheel with max7's mods tuned properly
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Originally Posted by mcnannay
i bet you could hit 165 at the flywheel with max7's mods tuned properly
but DLIDFIS instead of the MSD lol
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I think you can get 165 but probably not 180. There's not much you can do with the stock FI. The biggest restriction in the Air Flow Meter. So putting bigger injectors won't really help. It's basically running optimal stock. Carbing a SE will make more power and is cheaper than a standalone computer.
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That is about right. Header, free exhaust, direct fire, 255lph pump, timed right, .....yep i'm right at 170 with that. Header is suppose to add 30hp is what they say. Do it all and check it.
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so, how bout a non ported se, with RB header and exhaust, pull the emissions and fuel injection, replace the stock fuel pump with a holley blue and regulator, DLIDFIS, and slap a delorto on there.... it would be a monster right?
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You wanting a race car?
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Originally Posted by frigidmonkey
I was reading a post where someone said about gsl-se's
"They start at 135 HP from the factory with a broad torque band starting in the low RPMs. Change the intake filter to a free-flowing K&N, bolt on a Racing Beat header and exhaust system (eliminating the cats) and you're up in the 165 - 180 HP range before you've even touched the engine itself"
no offence to the person who wrote this, but I dont know you personally, and a LOT of people exaggerate, so I just wanted to double check, no offence
I'm sure that's about right because even at 6000 ft. I can still run a low 15 sec. 1\4 mile. Even when i have 215-50-13's on it i'm still in the 15 sec range. This is with Dellorto 48 carb racing beat streetport exhaust, underdrive pulleys and no 5th and 6th port accutators.
Basicly my engine is the poster child for the setup that RB used to sell.

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street ported engine? or just street port exhaust?
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Originally Posted by Brianhsval
You wanting a race car?
I want something that wont get spanked quite so easily. Got a buddy with a second generation supra who is ALWAYS making fun of me. He' knows theres no way that I can touch him in a straight line, I'd like to change that
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get a streetported 89-91 N/A motor with and aftermarket ECU
Or boost your current block. you have a weight advantage over the Supra.
I know my car is not a beast in the strait line, best of 14.942 @ 92.61MPH
But I've built it for road course, not the drag strip. So it doesn't bother me
to get whipped in the strait shots. my boosted 626 does the straits well...
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my current block is junk
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Originally Posted by frigidmonkey
I want something that wont get spanked quite so easily. Got a buddy with a second generation supra who is ALWAYS making fun of me. He' knows theres no way that I can touch him in a straight line, I'd like to change that
too bad he can't touch u in a turn in that heavy pos.
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Originally Posted by frigidmonkey
street ported engine? or just street port exhaust?
Just streetport exhaust.
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my 60$ POS pacesetter header i had on my old 12a woke it up pretty good
butt dyno could really tell


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