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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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Tip for aligning windows?

Hey,

I inherited a misaligned drivers door window (PO had just replaced the motor) and I've having a lot of trouble getting it to slide up right. Looking at it from the interior, it needs to go left more (towards back of the door). I can get it up by pulling on it with my hand, but I can't get it to do it on its own.

I looked in the manual and followed the instructions and I've got it adjusted to the left as far as it will go. I think the "felt" lining in the grove is messed up. Does anyone have a tip or suggestions for fixing this? Can it be done easily?

Also, on an unrelated note, how hard is it to convert to manual windows? Can the existing door frame and what not be used (I realize I'll need new interior pieces)? Am I better off just buying another complete set of doors?

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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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both my manual windows dont go up properly and iam too lazy to open it all up to twinkle with the regulater so i allways i just do it by hand to by pushing on the glass
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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doors are the same. have all the holes and stuff for both. New regulators are expensive so change it if you got the cabbage. As for the alignment, take off the panel (it ain't that hard) and loosen all the screws, put the window all the way up (the reg will rock around) and then tighten the back screws. Lower it and raise it again and again, each time tighten one or two screws. After all that, loosen the screw(s) that hold the track, lower and raise it, holding and moving those screws (or as I like to call it-"adjustion"). Tighten it up, and your done. Repeat as necessary. Afterwards, have a smoke and a pancake.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Oh, yeah. Make sure your window is firmly attached to the reg and the widget plastic clip thingiekabobs are solid and intact. Did I mention the smoke and the pancake?
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rxtory
both my manual windows dont go up properly and iam too lazy to open it all up to twinkle with the regulater so i allways i just do it by hand to by pushing on the glass
Had the same issue with mine. Remove the door panels, and spray some light lube (such as WD40) thru the hole in the door where the crank handle comes out. Not just a light spray, but really soak it down good, until it is running off the bottom. This will get all the old grease (and years of dirt) cleaned off.
After working the windows up and down several times, spraying each time, they should start working easier.
Follow up with a heavier lube to replace what you just washed out.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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Oh, yeah. Make sure your window is firmly attached to the reg and the widget plastic clip thingiekabobs are solid and intact. Did I mention the smoke and the pancake?
no and you forgot the kenuter valve, boost fluid and re-detachable muffler bearings for easy opening of the door.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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^Blinker Fluid is always needed as well^
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Take your door panel off, then locate the phillips-head fastener that holds the "below-belt" metal retainer. Remove the fastener and pivot the metal retainer back; just slightly. Drill a new hole about 1/8" offset-back from the original and fasten down. This removes the "slop" that allows the glass to come out of the track.
The problem is that rubber often tends to shrinks (and wear) over time; just enough to allow the glass to pop-out of the rubber channel / metal retainer track. I had the same problem and this worked for me. (I'll try and get some photos to show the fastener, tomorrow.)
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ChasRX
Take your door panel off, then locate the phillips-head fastener that holds the "below-belt" metal retainer. Remove the fastener and pivot the metal retainer back; just slightly. Drill a new hole about 1/8" offset-back from the original and fasten down. This removes the "slop" that allows the glass to come out of the track.
The problem is that rubber often tends to shrinks (and wear) over time; just enough to allow the glass to pop-out of the rubber channel / metal retainer track. I had the same problem and this worked for me. (I'll try and get some photos to show the fastener, tomorrow.)
Chas,

I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to, which side of the door are you referring to? I guess the pictures will make things clearer.

Zach
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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This should clarify:

Beware not to offset too much, though. It can be too tight for the glass to move in the rubber channel. With a manual crank, slide resistance isn't such a big deal as it is with a window regulator.

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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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very nice description. will make use of this information SOON!
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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thats how i fixed my last 7 buy up and down and figured it was sliding out of the vertical felt track so i drilled a hole and moved it forward i never had a problem with it again. my hole was slotted whith a round file and then i bent the veritcal felt track bracket.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ChasRX
This should clarify:

Beware not to offset too much, though. It can be too tight for the glass to move in the rubber channel. With a manual crank, slide resistance isn't such a big deal as it is with a window regulator.

ok i drilled a new hole the other day for the channel casue i could tell that my offset was also off, after doing this it helped a bit and i tinkered with the regualter for along time in multiple postitions, but it didnt seem to help. is it new regulator time. or should i take out the whole regulator to see if it is still in decent condition
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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I finally put a small amount of dielectric grease on the rubber portions of the window channel - on the front, just above the top of the door frame where the window frame starts angling back, and at the top in both corners. The glass was hanging up on the rubber, and now they seem to work quite well.

Rich
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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i thought mine was hanging up on some rubber so i fixed that aswell but no dice. my window tries to go up on a crooked angle, and none of the adjustments to the regulater seem to sastisfy it
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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Vic Brit is selling new regulators for $40...
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