TII swap wiring diagram for ignition
You're in luck.
I've finished 99% of the wiring diagrams to go from 84 GSL-SE to an 88 TII. This involves part of the front harness, the EM harness, tranny harness, all sensors, coils, solenoids, ECU, etc on the TII. A total conversion that should be street/emissions legal. Spent alot of time doing this wiring setup (thinking time--not doing).
I'm far enough along to post the wiring changes--keep in mind I have not tested anything yet--but I've done alot of system wiring stuff on other types of equipment, so I feel pretty good about it. Anyway, use at your own risk.
Most likely there are things you will want to do that are different and you'll have to work that out--though I'll be glad to offer advice.
I'm hoping to do my swap by the end of the year. Rotary Resurrection is currently rebuilding the engine.
I'll try and get something up this week, but I go out of town next week-- I will get something up soon.
Feel free to pm me.
Scott
p.s. yea what they said about the SE ECU is exactly correct, forget about it.
I've finished 99% of the wiring diagrams to go from 84 GSL-SE to an 88 TII. This involves part of the front harness, the EM harness, tranny harness, all sensors, coils, solenoids, ECU, etc on the TII. A total conversion that should be street/emissions legal. Spent alot of time doing this wiring setup (thinking time--not doing).
I'm far enough along to post the wiring changes--keep in mind I have not tested anything yet--but I've done alot of system wiring stuff on other types of equipment, so I feel pretty good about it. Anyway, use at your own risk.
Most likely there are things you will want to do that are different and you'll have to work that out--though I'll be glad to offer advice.
I'm hoping to do my swap by the end of the year. Rotary Resurrection is currently rebuilding the engine.
I'll try and get something up this week, but I go out of town next week-- I will get something up soon.
Feel free to pm me.
Scott
p.s. yea what they said about the SE ECU is exactly correct, forget about it.
Guess you could run the mechanical dizzy, but there are many other reasons not to use the SE ECU:
1) it has no concept of boost and how to adjust fuel for it
2) the fuel/air map will be off, unless you use the SE AFM
3) it won't be able to adjust timing for knock (detonation)
4) can't even sense knocking--but then again many people don't care about that--but should
5) would have to use the SE injectors, what would you do about the other two (TII has four, SE has two)--unless you ran some sort of piggyback unit.
IMHO too many reasons not to use it.
If you can afford it and don't need emissions, get an aftermarket ECU.
Scott
1) it has no concept of boost and how to adjust fuel for it
2) the fuel/air map will be off, unless you use the SE AFM
3) it won't be able to adjust timing for knock (detonation)
4) can't even sense knocking--but then again many people don't care about that--but should
5) would have to use the SE injectors, what would you do about the other two (TII has four, SE has two)--unless you ran some sort of piggyback unit.
IMHO too many reasons not to use it.
If you can afford it and don't need emissions, get an aftermarket ECU.
Scott
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Re: TII Swap
Originally posted by Rex4Life
You're in luck.
I've finished 99% of the wiring diagrams to go from 84 GSL-SE to an 88 TII. This involves part of the front harness, the EM harness, tranny harness, all sensors, coils, solenoids, ECU, etc on the TII. A total conversion that should be street/emissions legal. Spent alot of time doing this wiring setup (thinking time--not doing).
I'm far enough along to post the wiring changes--keep in mind I have not tested anything yet--but I've done alot of system wiring stuff on other types of equipment, so I feel pretty good about it. Anyway, use at your own risk.
Most likely there are things you will want to do that are different and you'll have to work that out--though I'll be glad to offer advice.
I'm hoping to do my swap by the end of the year. Rotary Resurrection is currently rebuilding the engine.
I'll try and get something up this week, but I go out of town next week-- I will get something up soon.
Feel free to pm me.
Scott
p.s. yea what they said about the SE ECU is exactly correct, forget about it.
You're in luck.
I've finished 99% of the wiring diagrams to go from 84 GSL-SE to an 88 TII. This involves part of the front harness, the EM harness, tranny harness, all sensors, coils, solenoids, ECU, etc on the TII. A total conversion that should be street/emissions legal. Spent alot of time doing this wiring setup (thinking time--not doing).
I'm far enough along to post the wiring changes--keep in mind I have not tested anything yet--but I've done alot of system wiring stuff on other types of equipment, so I feel pretty good about it. Anyway, use at your own risk.
Most likely there are things you will want to do that are different and you'll have to work that out--though I'll be glad to offer advice.
I'm hoping to do my swap by the end of the year. Rotary Resurrection is currently rebuilding the engine.
I'll try and get something up this week, but I go out of town next week-- I will get something up soon.
Feel free to pm me.
Scott
p.s. yea what they said about the SE ECU is exactly correct, forget about it.
With that being said, I know your aware that the passanger side of the harness does not need to be modiefied, its the drivers side that rusn through the dash that you have to worry about. Its really not that hard, just remove every thing that doesnt have to do with the EGI circuit, wire up the second gen fuse box, and wire a trigger wire from the ignition switch to the main relay, and your set!
All I can really say is get a FSM for the -SE at least, and at least a hayes or chilton for the 87 TII. Go through all the wiring diagrams, mark the things that are the same, and different. Mark the parts that you will pull from the -SE and the ones that you need to add from the TII. It will eventually come together.
The wiring on our cars is actually really simple as far as automotive electrical goes.
The wiring on our cars is actually really simple as far as automotive electrical goes.
FWIW--I have the images scanned, beware they turned out real big (size not bytes), suggest downloading them and viewing on your cpu. I'll work on downsizing them soon.
Here they are:
ECU Wiring #1
ECU Wiring #2
ECU Plug 1
FEM-02 Plug
FE-02 Plug
Fuel Pump Wiring
Your comments and suggestions are welcome.
Scott
Here they are:
ECU Wiring #1
ECU Wiring #2
ECU Plug 1
FEM-02 Plug
FE-02 Plug
Fuel Pump Wiring
Your comments and suggestions are welcome.
Scott
Originally posted by fatboy7
All I can really say is get a FSM for the -SE at least, and at least a hayes or chilton for the 87 TII. Go through all the wiring diagrams, mark the things that are the same, and different. Mark the parts that you will pull from the -SE and the ones that you need to add from the TII. It will eventually come together.
The wiring on our cars is actually really simple as far as automotive electrical goes.
All I can really say is get a FSM for the -SE at least, and at least a hayes or chilton for the 87 TII. Go through all the wiring diagrams, mark the things that are the same, and different. Mark the parts that you will pull from the -SE and the ones that you need to add from the TII. It will eventually come together.
The wiring on our cars is actually really simple as far as automotive electrical goes.
The FSM wiring diagrams for the TII are MUCH more complete than the haynes manual. Its what I did.
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Re: Wiring Swap Info
Originally posted by Rex4Life
FWIW--I have the images scanned, beware they turned out real big (size not bytes), suggest downloading them and viewing on your cpu. I'll work on downsizing them soon.
Here they are:
ECU Wiring #1
ECU Wiring #2
ECU Plug 1
FEM-02 Plug
FE-02 Plug
Fuel Pump Wiring
Your comments and suggestions are welcome.
Scott
FWIW--I have the images scanned, beware they turned out real big (size not bytes), suggest downloading them and viewing on your cpu. I'll work on downsizing them soon.
Here they are:
ECU Wiring #1
ECU Wiring #2
ECU Plug 1
FEM-02 Plug
FE-02 Plug
Fuel Pump Wiring
Your comments and suggestions are welcome.
Scott
Originally posted by 82streetracer
HALTECH!!!!
very easy hookup. plus you'll thank yourself later when you can do ANY modification and it doesnt **** up your drivability.
HALTECH!!!!
very easy hookup. plus you'll thank yourself later when you can do ANY modification and it doesnt **** up your drivability.
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