Those of you that don't visit the Race Car section.
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Those of you that don't visit the Race Car section.
Where do you guys race?
People like Directfreak and others with ported, forced induction, or completely swapped engines, people with FC front subframe or CP Rack and Pinion kits... People with still functional sunroofs...
All this stuff kicks me up into the GT category where I won't do much... So maybe SCCA or other racing organizations aren't for me...
For the price of a steering box, I could buy another 1st gen, so a replacement box doesn't seem really logical... Besides, I already have the Rack and pinion kit laying around...
Besides, I wanna keep my sunroof functional for nice days, and the stock 12A is pretty gutless, so As I rebuild I'm probably gonna port it...
Is there someplace I can go to just drive fast and have fun legally without competition? When I'm speeding on the highway, I'm not competing for anything... I simply like the feel of going fast...
People like Directfreak and others with ported, forced induction, or completely swapped engines, people with FC front subframe or CP Rack and Pinion kits... People with still functional sunroofs...
All this stuff kicks me up into the GT category where I won't do much... So maybe SCCA or other racing organizations aren't for me...
For the price of a steering box, I could buy another 1st gen, so a replacement box doesn't seem really logical... Besides, I already have the Rack and pinion kit laying around...
Besides, I wanna keep my sunroof functional for nice days, and the stock 12A is pretty gutless, so As I rebuild I'm probably gonna port it...
Is there someplace I can go to just drive fast and have fun legally without competition? When I'm speeding on the highway, I'm not competing for anything... I simply like the feel of going fast...
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Just get out to a track and do some open lapping sessions. You can pretty much just go out and have fun.
I know others have mentioned this to you but you really need to look into it. Basically if you have a safe street car and a helmet you are ready for fun.
I know others have mentioned this to you but you really need to look into it. Basically if you have a safe street car and a helmet you are ready for fun.
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Originally Posted by RotaryAXer
Just get out to a track and do some open lapping sessions. You can pretty much just go out and have fun.
I know others have mentioned this to you but you really need to look into it. Basically if you have a safe street car and a helmet you are ready for fun.
I know others have mentioned this to you but you really need to look into it. Basically if you have a safe street car and a helmet you are ready for fun.
Open laps eh? Sounds just like what I need...
My driving record, insurance bill, friends/family, and my *** will thank me for it...
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no forced induction in SCCA. Unless it's solo II stuff. or some open lapping. Not sure how SCCA solo I works but you can boost in that. WE race in Midwestern council solo I which i've been told is much like scca solo I. You get points assigned for each mod. The more mods you have the faster class you'll be in, but there is a point where you'll have to put a cage in to race.
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Originally Posted by BMS2004
no forced induction in SCCA. Unless it's solo II stuff. or some open lapping. Not sure how SCCA solo I works but you can boost in that. WE race in Midwestern council solo I which i've been told is much like scca solo I. You get points assigned for each mod. The more mods you have the faster class you'll be in, but there is a point where you'll have to put a cage in to race.
Besides... Too many SUV's around.
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not old enough yet....they're getting there though its either 25 or 30 before vintage but like i said most wheel to wheel leagues dojn't like boost, too hard to regulate
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Originally Posted by BMS2004
not old enough yet....they're getting there though its either 25 or 30 before vintage but like i said most wheel to wheel leagues dojn't like boost, too hard to regulate
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Originally Posted by Pele
I know I need to look into it. I have been, but I can't really fit into many classes with what I'm planning on doing and what I've got. Once this RX-7 is finished, I'll look into a Non-sunroof 84/85 shell for IT... Hopefully there'll be some around by then.
Open laps eh? Sounds just like what I need...
My driving record, insurance bill, friends/family, and my *** will thank me for it...
Open laps eh? Sounds just like what I need...
My driving record, insurance bill, friends/family, and my *** will thank me for it...
What I'm talking about has nothing to do with classes or anything.
I'll bet that the track near you has clubs that host events where you just go out on the track and drive. No times taken, no competition, limited passing but a whole lot of fun. I know there have been some pictures and stuff from VIR posted on these forums. There were some links in one of your previous threads that talked about this.
You are not going to get into club racing with the car you have. There is no point in it. You will need to spend a ton of money to get the car back to a "legal" point and then you still won't be competitive. Then there all the costs associated with club racing. (entry fees, school to get you license, tires, brake, body panels, and every thing else that goes with racing)
Either autocross the car or find some open track days.
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Some stuff offered at Summit Point outside of Charles Town, WV:
http://www.bsr-inc.com/FATT.HTM
http://www.bsr-inc.com/SEAT.HTM
http://www.bsr-inc.com/SCHEDREC.HTM
http://www.bsr-inc.com/FATT.HTM
http://www.bsr-inc.com/SEAT.HTM
http://www.bsr-inc.com/SCHEDREC.HTM
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Start by autox'ing. Its affordable. Track days and club racing are expensive. Autox will help you learn the skills you'll need when you graduate to high speed racing. You will learn how to actually drive on the edge and when u lose it, you'll be going slow enough to recover. You'll also find out how not great a driver you really are. You can also start learning how to setup the car AFTER you become a consistent driver. That also gives you time to plan you future in this hobby.
Dont worry what class your going to be in. This is about learning. Once you gain some experience, then youll have a better perspective on where you want to go in the future.
Dont worry what class your going to be in. This is about learning. Once you gain some experience, then youll have a better perspective on where you want to go in the future.
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I agree with Carl on the AutoX.
I go to open track days very often.Its alott of fun,and you learn more than you can imagine.Even though it isnt a competition,the fun is just a much!
On another note,the price of going to Open track day is not much.If your doing 25laps or less,a set of road tyres will last quite a few meetings.
I go to open track days very often.Its alott of fun,and you learn more than you can imagine.Even though it isnt a competition,the fun is just a much!
On another note,the price of going to Open track day is not much.If your doing 25laps or less,a set of road tyres will last quite a few meetings.
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I thought AutoCross was SCCA sanctioned racing and you have to fit into some kinda class for it...
Everyone's got magnetic numbers and **** for their car or they paint their class on the side of the car with shoe polish...
Everyone's got magnetic numbers and **** for their car or they paint their class on the side of the car with shoe polish...
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They will find a class for you, even if your not competitive in that class. Doesnt matter, its a great starting point.
Depends on the region. They outlawed shoe polish here in CFR cause its too hard to read, but small mag /static cling numbers are cheap.
Depends on the region. They outlawed shoe polish here in CFR cause its too hard to read, but small mag /static cling numbers are cheap.
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Originally Posted by Pele
I thought AutoCross was SCCA sanctioned racing and you have to fit into some kinda class for it...
Everyone's got magnetic numbers and **** for their car or they paint their class on the side of the car with shoe polish...
Everyone's got magnetic numbers and **** for their car or they paint their class on the side of the car with shoe polish...
Autocross is the general name for the sport. Solo II is the SCCA name given to it. There are SCCA regional clubs that host autocrosses and several indepent car clubs that hold their own autocrosses also. They will find a class for you. If all else fails you can be asked to be lumped in with a lower class (CSP maybe) just so you can compare times. You could ask other competitors at the regional level if they mind that you car is overprepared for the class. If they have a problem with it, then you can ask to be excluded from the points or at least have some sort of penalty.
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Cool beans. Now I just gotta finish the car so I can get out on the track and suck ***...
Ain't gonna boost myself, I know I'm not all that great of a driver. Some cones are gonna DIE!
Ain't gonna boost myself, I know I'm not all that great of a driver. Some cones are gonna DIE!
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Originally Posted by BMS2004
no forced induction in SCCA. Unless it's solo II stuff. or some open lapping. Not sure how SCCA solo I works but you can boost in that. WE race in Midwestern council solo I which i've been told is much like scca solo I. You get points assigned for each mod. The more mods you have the faster class you'll be in, but there is a point where you'll have to put a cage in to race.
And back on topic, I agree with Carl completely. To start with, you're not going to be competitive so it doesn't really matter what class you're in (unless you get into some weird class with no other cars) so just run whatcha brung and have a blast.
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I'm the son... and not going to be there with a car saturday, though thinking of just dropping by.
The engine problem that meant we had to push the car onto the trailer Sunday? Yeah, uh... that was the rear rotor bearing eating itself. Big giant pile of copper shavings in the bottom of the oil pan when we opened the motor. The bearing dropped straight out of the rotor when I picked it up. All the seals (save some of the side seals) are fine, as are the housings, but that rotor and eccentric shaft are trash.
I think we're going to work on improving cooling on the new chassis...
The engine problem that meant we had to push the car onto the trailer Sunday? Yeah, uh... that was the rear rotor bearing eating itself. Big giant pile of copper shavings in the bottom of the oil pan when we opened the motor. The bearing dropped straight out of the rotor when I picked it up. All the seals (save some of the side seals) are fine, as are the housings, but that rotor and eccentric shaft are trash.
I think we're going to work on improving cooling on the new chassis...
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Could have been a lot worse. We have spare rotors and e-shafts, and probably everything else to rebuild aside from some side seals. Motor *could* be back together in time, but... I've got classes, dad has work, and we had bad experiences the last time we tried rebuilding in a hurry. Plus, it's the last weekend we were going to be out this season anyway, so... just going to try to see that it doesn't happen again.
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