ioTus

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I saw a pic that made it seem the camber plates have a gap at the sides that goes to the wheel well. Is that the case?

luiml73

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Just finished installing the coilovers. I'm tired *** hell, so I'm going to bed. I'll just add a few pics for now.


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luiml73

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The car is rubbing in the front. I think I lowered the car a bit too much. I need to adjust camber to stop it from rubbing the fender. The 17's are too big for this little car. I think with some 15" wheels, I should have a bit more travel in the rear. As it is at the moment, the rear is bottoming out.









Looks good though

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82FanTC

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Nice! Did you have to cut much material off the rear tower to make them fit? I know Gabriel told me I will have to cut some.

luiml73

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We did not have to cut anything in the rear? We did have to shave red bushings with the grinder just a little, to make the spacers and washers fit in the rear.

placd1

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The end result looks awesome. She sits at just the right level. Seriously considering dropping the cash for a T3 coilover system.

MosesX605

Yikes, that's way too low. You need a good inch higher on all four corners, IMHO.

twinkletoes

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Looks like you had a special bracket for the rear? I wish they would've mentioned those to me before I sold mine cause they didn't fit....

I ordered the rear coilovers from them around a year ago. I had the spring hitting the inner body wells and the adjuster perch would hit my upper end links.

I sold the rears because of this. I also have a 84 GSL rear end with moser axles and T2 brakes in the rear, so I don't know if that had something to do with it.

Would like more info on your setup?

luiml73

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This is the drop mount they came with.


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The previous owner of the car, told me the car had an 83 gsl suspension, but the bolt pattern is 4x114.3 with drum brakes in the rear? I have not removed the rear wheels yet, to check if the hubs where redrilled.


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I'll check tonight, but they must have been redrilled. No other explanation?

Front hub 4x114.3. GSL-SE?


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luiml73

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Update: I raised the car about 1" 1/2 all around and set the koni's and rear shocks to soft. Car feels like a Damn Lexus

twinkletoes

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Very cool! I'll have to maybe try and order again with one of those mounts. Looks nice!

That's strange if you have 4x114.3 bolt pattern. Definitely redrilled since you have drums in the rear.

MosesX605

What spring rates are you running?

twinkletoes

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Think he said he's running 200 fronts and 150 rear. That's a nice ride for sure lol

luiml73

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That is correct.

As far as the the rear drums go, the where not redrilled. They where bent outwards to fit in the GSLSE wheels. I guess I will now have to find an SE rear end, because I cant leave it like this. Look at the pic closely again.

I will try and bend them back into 4x100 until I fix this problem

ioTus

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ioTus

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So the more and more i research, the less inclined I am to go with the rear coil-over-strut design.

Here's some info that Berny dug up after I mentioned that the AE86 suspension design is the same, and that those guys have been doing this for a while:

Project 1985 Toyota Corolla GT-S AE86 Setup- Sport Compact Car Magazine Page 2

And then here's a pic he found of an AE86 with coilovers in the rear:

Cookboy

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Looks great! A little thought on the matter and one might think the designers of the cars were trying to minimize weight. In so doing they designed shock mounts strong enough to do what shock mounts do, while designing spring perches to do what they do. Which typically involves supporting not only the weight of the car, but absorbing the forces applied by cornering, potholes, and being driven off curbs and such.
Edit: dang! I just read the article. The experts concur!

MosesX605

Well you could buy 5 inch springs and use these the stock location:

http://www.summitracing.com/int/part...6119/overview/

The only thing I can't figure out is how the adjusting nut locks into place. How does the nut lock into place on the respeed rear kit?

ioTus

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That picture of a corolla with coilovers in the rear - is illustrating what it looks like WHEN the strut punches through the welds... not good at all.


Also note that in that article, they are using rear springs PLUS rear coilovers, not removing the spring and replacing exclusively with a coilover, to account for this possibility.

luiml73

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Great!!! Now I'm going to have this pic I my head every time I drive the car

luiml73

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I just sent that pic to Gabriel and asked if he ever had this happen to any of his customers. This was his reply.

Never. That isn't an RX7 chassis though.


Looks like an AE86 to me.


Looks like they have some sort of solid mount that doesn't allow any movement so it caused metal fatigue (constant bending back and forth movement of the shock mount area) It also looks like they drilled a hole to run an adjuster shaft through (little purple thing on the rod).

In 14 years of selling rear coilovers for the AE86, Starlet and 510 we've never had this happen with our coilovers. I am confident you won't have any problems.

Gia & Gabriel Tyler*

ioTus

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It is definitely an AE86.

Thats good to know that they havent run into this issue -and thats a very good point that it looks like they drilled through for the purple adjuster rod - that alone could have caused a fissure in the seam which led to failure.

Still tho - its good to be mindful that this CAN happen. As much as i WANT to believe that rear coilovers would be perfectly fine, no problem, healthy skepticism and empirical data/experience trumps all.

I'm still on the fence and leaning towards rear adjustable perches.

82transam

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More food for thought - Many AE86's have been turned into dedicated (or nearly dedicated) drift machines with absurdly stiff springs. Obviously the stiffer the spring the more force there will be on that mounting point. Not to mention how hard some of those drift cars are pushed in general, everything is stressed.

Personally I would brace the rear shock mount if I were to buy these just to be safe (I like excuses to weld anyway haha), but Gabe knows his stuff. I'm sure it's fine, especially if only running a 150lb spring there...

BezRx7

I would simply box and reinforce the top mount in the rear. Usual practice with many other cars when converting to coilovers

Josh.272

Hey mate they look awesome when fitted to the car.
How do they feel when you are driving around?
Is the valving in the shocks suited to the rx7 or is it stiffer?
Thanks