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the streetable, emissions passing 14 second 1st gen?

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Old 11-22-02, 12:09 PM
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the streetable, emissions passing 14 second 1st gen?

how much money, what kind of mods would be required to make a 1st gen rx7 (probably non gsl) beat a 5l mustang(which runs 14's usually)?

Im assuming an exauhst ststem would be a good start(though i don't wan't something that's going to be annoying to the neighbors).

perhaps a nitrous kit?

porting?

lighter wheels?

your estimates on how much your reccomended upgrades would cost?
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I have a streetable, emissions passing mid 14 second 1st gen! Its a 13B GSL-SE though.

Just for a little FYI: When I did the streetport I gained on average about a half a second in the quarter mile. When I did the direct fire conversion and readjusted the timing I also gained about a half a second average in the quarter mile! Do the direct fire!!! Cheap, easy power. The exhaust system I have is a long primary system from Racing Beat. I am actually in the process of replacing it with a custom made one but it is good for some power and the tone is very nice. Not loud either. get some cold air to that motor somehow. A light flywheel does some wonders too. Some people say that you can't notice it but believe me the aluminum one that my 2nd gen has did wonders for acceleration. I still haven't done it to the first gen though. Any lighteneing will help also. Go on a diet
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errr.. what is "direct fire"? also, i heard light flywheels are bad for hilly areas.. its not thaaaat hilly here, but there are a few mountains around...
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oh yeah, and just what is the 1/4 mile time of a stock non-gsl 1st gen?
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thorin, he is talking about direct fire ignition if I'm not mistaken.

Check out www.hitman.hm/ported.htm

He has a mild streetport efi 12a making 178rwhp. He's put a lot of money into that car (efi, porting, standalone ecu) but I think it probably runs mid 13's.
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13's with 178 to the wheels? I think not...rofl
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I beleive the hitman is located in Austrlia which rates horsepower differently. Also this 12A happens to be sitting in a 750 KG Mazda 1300.
* The engine is RX-7 12A with 13B 6-Port centre plate for in-port injector capabilities
* Haltech E6-A Fuel / Ignition Engine Management with RA-3 Reluctor Adaptor
* Injection Perfection 2x50mm Weber IDA style throttle body
* 4 x 550cc injectors ex-13B Turbo Series 4
* Fuel rail and Regulator from a 13B 6-Port
* 13B Turbo Crank Trigger
* 3x Haltech Smart Ignitors (Bosche "008" Self Dwell)
* A 13B Turbo Series 5 LEAD Ignition Coil without the OEM ignitor
* 2x Bosche Coils (transformer style) for TRAIL side
* NGK BUR7EQ and BUR9EQ spark plugs. Same as Series 5 & 6 RX-7.

Seems possible to me, although I don't have a calculator handy.
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Originally posted by hondah8er
13's with 178 to the wheels? I think not...rofl
Opps, forgot to mention that his car is a shade under one ton. However, I would think that a full interior 7 should be able to break into the 13's with a similiar setup with a more extreme streetport. It might require better gearing but I definately think it's doable.
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ok if its under 2000 lbs then maybe its possible with an experienced driver. I totally disagree with it being able to do 13's with a more aggressive sp. How much do you think street porting adds? Not that much. Sorry it aint happening with full interior.
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thats what im looking for right now, 14's. doesnt have to pass emissions. i want to be able to hang with the other honda's around here (i know that sounds bad, but im friends with a couple people that have REALLY fast honda's, one being a mid 13's car all motor) i figure, im going to get a dual webber or something of that nature, switch to electric fan, new fuel pump. then get a street port that will probably be done myself. but its going to be alot of money and time... which sucks. sometimes i want to get rid of my rex because of its lack of torque but i love her too much

what do yall think the quickest i could get my car on stock ports? thats the draw back, i really dont want to open up my motor and **** with internals right now. but i guess its something i gotta do
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I think that people severely underestimate the potential of the 12a. If hitman can put down 178rwhp with a very mild streetport then I don't see why he wouldn't be able to put down 15+ more horsepower with an extended port. Combine that with better gearing I totally think that 13's are a possibility given an experienced driver.
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what kind of carb mods would i need (essential) to run decent times? im thinking, with that, a K&N, carb mods, along with the mods i already have (racing beat header, high flow cat, 2.25" piping, ractive muffler, gsl rear end, short shifter) i think mid to high 15's would be possible. im hoping, i would be really happy with that right now, till i can afford some more stuff to push me lower into low 15's to high 14's. im really hoping i can get into 14's on stock ports.
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