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Old 08-21-03, 09:51 PM
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stock diff would support TII transplant ?

I have a 83 GS, i want to know if the stock differential could support the Turbo II engine... on stock boost, stock engine, stock turbo.

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Yes, it should, not for slicked up racing, but stock and street driven, itll work. Thats what im doing, until I can afford a whole new rear end.
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Cheddaking, are you putting a TII transmission, or it's possible to run 12A transmission with turbo II engine?
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Its possible, but its also possible that you would need to stock them in your garage and get good at chaning them .

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You could theoretically run a twin turbo V-10 Viper engine through that rear end if you are good to it and take it easy. FWIW I have killed a T-II syncro with NO turbo on a transplanted tranny so anything is possible. Too much abuse kills parts faster than anything. More power doesn't neccessarily mean more stress. More power usually means that the driver is harder on the car though and this is where the problem lies.
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Originally posted by rotarygod
You could theoretically run a twin turbo V-10 Viper engine through that rear end if you are good to it and take it easy. FWIW I have killed a T-II syncro with NO turbo on a transplanted tranny so anything is possible. Too much abuse kills parts faster than anything. More power doesn't neccessarily mean more stress. More power usually means that the driver is harder on the car though and this is where the problem lies.
That is an idiotic statement if I ever heard one. a twin turbo v-10 eh? LOL even if you weren't booting it the torque would rip a stock 1st gen rear apart...fast.

On a sidenote...i had a 12a tranny with my T2 setup for 2 years or about 20,000 km. I replaced it before it went but towards the end it started to whine ALOT. This is with 271 rwhp at 14 psi on the stock turbo.
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so, i could run a 12A tranny on the setup, and then, when i have the cash, put the TII tranny in it ?
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Because of all of the pain in the *** to put the TII in the car... I could take my time and make my custom tranny mount etc.
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Originally posted by WanKeL FD RX-7
so, i could run a 12A tranny on the setup, and then, when i have the cash, put the TII tranny in it ?
Yes you can. I'm going to be putting a T2 tranny in over the winter. my car is proof that the 12a tranny is decently strong. like I said before i made 271 rwhp which is approx 320 flywheel. Slowly overtime it started to whine which is to be expected. If your going to be runnin stock boost u will have no probs I suspect.
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The only idiotic statement was the reply to mine. Sorry dude you had that one coming. So you don't come back at me with another one, I do realize that the Viper does not come with turbos. Go check out Super Viper Sytems or Hennessey Motorsports to see some that are. If you were to just let the clutch out and drive normally the transmission would not break. If you floor it, it will. Don't be so naive. Like I said, it is ABUSE that kills parts. I usually kill the clutch first anyways.
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Even a bone stock viper's torque would rip apart the stock diff and tranny at low speeds. And my statement had nothign to do with you saying it had twin turbos. Even a stock viper's torque would destroy a 12a rear and tranny. Use your head brother.
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Originally posted by hondah8er
Even a bone stock viper's torque would rip apart the stock diff and tranny at low speeds. And my statement had nothign to do with you saying it had twin turbos. Even a stock viper's torque would destroy a 12a rear and tranny. Use your head brother.
i could get 100k miles out of a viper engine and 12a driveline.

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Originally posted by j9fd3s
i could get 100k miles out of a viper engine and 12a driveline.

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Then hey why don't you try it and tell us how it went?





you have just taken top honours for the stupidest statement in this thread...period.

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Originally posted by hondah8er
Then hey why don't you try it and tell us how it went?

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you buy my the stuff ill do it. you're the one who has a 12a tranny with the 300hp motor and saying it cant be done

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Originally posted by j9fd3s
you buy my the stuff ill do it. you're the one who has a 12a tranny with the 300hp motor and saying it cant be done

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Why dont u get a life? My 320hp motor made 243 ft lbs of torque. Far cry from over 500 ft/lbs of torque in a viper isn't it genius?

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Originally posted by hondah8er
Why dont u get a life? My 320hp motor made 243 ft lbs of torque. Far cry from over 500 ft/lbs of torque in a viper isn't it genius?

yes but you're not making 500lbs ft driving in traffic, you're still missing the point

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Do you have any idea how much torque the viper makes at low rpm's? I'd be curious to find out exactly but I can bet it makes well over 300 ft lbs at say 2500 rpm.
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That would be at full throttle.
I think what these guys are trying to say is that you could baby it for some period of time until it could be replaced by something better. You don't drive around in traffic using all that 500 lbs of torque.

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well you can put a GSL-SE rear end in there... and use the GSL-SE tranny for a little bit... and you don't have to cut the drive shaft...

and mwatson... tight name... Marques...
my name is spelled exactly the same...
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humm i have a good working 12A tranny, and a very good 12A diff, it might be okay for one or two summers.

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I don't make drag racing, so i might be okay for a few months. I don't make 6000rpm clutch drops... I like to floor it on the highway and take curves

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