1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

Stock 85 SE - 4 port or 6 port?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-30-07, 10:50 AM
  #1  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
G-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Richmond Hill, ON
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Stock 85 SE - 4 port or 6 port?

I've been seaching around for an answer to this question but I'm getting conflicting answers. Some posts are talking about 'stock 85 SE 6 ports 13B' engines...yet other posts say the same but with 4 port 13B engines.

Can someone tell me what configuration the North American 85 SEs came in?

Sorry for the beginner question.
Old 04-30-07, 11:01 AM
  #2  
RX for fun

iTrader: (13)
 
Siraniko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Socal
Posts: 15,926
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 19 Posts
6port 13-B but during rebuilt, it can easily be converted to a 4port 13-B by using 12-A front and rear plates as many of us have done.
Old 04-30-07, 11:28 AM
  #3  
www.ohiorotaries.com

 
clbsinvaders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 523
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Every 13B before the GSL-SE was a 4 port carb'd in the US and A.
Old 04-30-07, 12:43 PM
  #4  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
G-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Richmond Hill, ON
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for the help.

gman
Old 04-30-07, 03:32 PM
  #5  
rOtArY mAdNeSs
 
xXyUngrOmEr1Xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
all 13b' since 84' where 6port (you can Convert it to 4 port as clbsinvaders said), 12a' are the motors with 4ports
Old 04-30-07, 11:09 PM
  #6  
GSSL-SE

iTrader: (1)
 
1badFB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,332
Received 164 Likes on 85 Posts
Originally Posted by xXyUngrOmEr1Xx
all 13b' since 84' where 6port (you can Convert it to 4 port as clbsinvaders said), 12a' are the motors with 4ports
Correction...All 13b N/A motors since '84 were 6 port.
Old 05-01-07, 12:36 AM
  #7  
Full Member

 
85-GSL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Chicago Suburbs, 815
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
whats better?

/hijack
Old 05-01-07, 11:50 AM
  #8  
Lapping = Fapping

iTrader: (13)
 
Jeff20B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Near Seattle
Posts: 15,725
Received 70 Likes on 64 Posts
My most favorite 13B is the nitrided J-spec '80-'83 4 port R5. They're about as rare as a Cosmo 13BRE. I streetported one and dropped it into a GLC project. For a rotorhead like me, they are one of the best most upgradeable, yet very excellent in stock form, 4 port 13Bs ever to come out of Japan, if not the best. They exceed any of the old school 13Bs from the '70s without even trying. Too bad they're so rare.
Old 05-01-07, 12:03 PM
  #9  
RX for fun

iTrader: (13)
 
Siraniko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Socal
Posts: 15,926
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 19 Posts
Originally Posted by Jeff20B
My most favorite 13B is the nitrided J-spec '80-'83 4 port R5. They're about as rare as a Cosmo 13BRE. I streetported one and dropped it into a GLC project. For a rotorhead like me, they are one of the best most upgradeable, yet very excellent in stock form, 4 port 13Bs ever to come out of Japan, if not the best. They exceed any of the old school 13Bs from the '70s without even trying. Too bad they're so rare.

And they came with tall ports.
Old 05-01-07, 12:22 PM
  #10  
Lapping = Fapping

iTrader: (13)
 
Jeff20B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Near Seattle
Posts: 15,725
Received 70 Likes on 64 Posts
And a high volume 17.5mm oil pump!
Old 05-01-07, 02:17 PM
  #11  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
G-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Richmond Hill, ON
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by wackyracer
And they came with tall ports.

Now you're just tease'n me...

I've read around here that I can still make something decent out of my humble 6 port without changing the front/end plates. I want to start researching the project but need the answer to the 4/6 port question before I could really begin.
Old 05-17-07, 03:34 PM
  #12  
Full Member

 
ccauley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
similar situation

I have an 85 SE and the SE with EFI is a 13B 6 port stock. Everybody is throwing out details and specs and all sorts of stuff.

If your going to replace the engine consider this. Use a 4 port 13B out of a 3rd gen. Use a front cover and an oil pan out of a 1st gen. this will fit the 1st gen with a slight modification to the way the engine is mounted. Wjile your at it you might as well have it ported. Spend thefew extra dollars, you'll see the difference. If you plan to turbo charge or supercharge then try to get low compression rotors.

Now, you will have to have an adapter made so the 85 EFI will fit. Take a couple of gaskets, one form each side to a machinist and he can make you one.

I don't know if anybody sells one but if nobody does i will prototype one and start selling them. I can't be the only person who has this setup.

Camdem/atkins, RB and microtech all recommended this setup. So far it's working well for me.
Old 05-17-07, 03:38 PM
  #13  
RX for fun

iTrader: (13)
 
Siraniko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Socal
Posts: 15,926
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 19 Posts
Old 05-17-07, 03:39 PM
  #14  
Full Member

 
ccauley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
one more thing. If your going to pull the engine you might as well also change the fly wheel to something lighter. The stock fly wheel weighs a ton and is slow to spin up.
Old 05-17-07, 03:40 PM
  #15  
RX for fun

iTrader: (13)
 
Siraniko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Socal
Posts: 15,926
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 19 Posts
Your reading comprehension is way off.
Old 05-17-07, 03:45 PM
  #16  
Full Member

 
ccauley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The question was

"Can someone tell me what configuration the North American 85 SEs came in?"

I answered that question and gave a suggestion. that's all. lighten up OLD guy.
Old 05-17-07, 03:57 PM
  #17  
Lives on the Forum

iTrader: (13)
 
Rx-7Doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Oregon
Posts: 10,584
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by ccauley
I have an 85 SE and the SE with EFI is a 13B 6 port stock. Everybody is throwing out details and specs and all sorts of stuff.

If your going to replace the engine consider this. Use a 4 port 13B out of a 3rd gen. Use a front cover and an oil pan out of a 1st gen. this will fit the 1st gen with a slight modification to the way the engine is mounted. Wjile your at it you might as well have it ported. Spend thefew extra dollars, you'll see the difference. If you plan to turbo charge or supercharge then try to get low compression rotors.

Now, you will have to have an adapter made so the 85 EFI will fit. Take a couple of gaskets, one form each side to a machinist and he can make you one.

I don't know if anybody sells one but if nobody does i will prototype one and start selling them. I can't be the only person who has this setup.

Camdem/atkins, RB and microtech all recommended this setup. So far it's working well for me.
Why would you go thru all the trouble and expense of putting in a REW engine and use the antiquated highly restricted intake system of a SE?
Old 05-17-07, 04:05 PM
  #18  
Full Member

 
ccauley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
agreed, it's just a temp solution while i save money for something better is all. It's a starting point. so many options and directions to take. It will get replaced. For now it works. we all go through the "save money" for the next step situation.

But it does place you in a good position to move forward.
Old 05-17-07, 04:08 PM
  #19  
RX for fun

iTrader: (13)
 
Siraniko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Socal
Posts: 15,926
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 19 Posts
Originally Posted by ccauley
The question was

"Can someone tell me what configuration the North American 85 SEs came in?"

I answered that question and gave a suggestion. that's all. lighten up OLD guy.


His first post indicates that he is confused. I bet is now more confused. Thats the reason why we didnt post any other crap about other motors. comprende??
Old 05-17-07, 04:13 PM
  #20  
Full Member

 
ccauley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Now your making sence, i can understand you now. Explaining rather than insulting somebodies intelligence goes much further in life. but i guess the "finger" says it all.
Old 05-17-07, 04:19 PM
  #21  
Lives on the Forum

iTrader: (13)
 
Rx-7Doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Oregon
Posts: 10,584
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
The finger is Wackys way of just telling then that they are #1 in his book,lol.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
The1Sun
New Member RX-7 Technical
9
03-18-18 11:08 PM
Skeese
Adaptronic Engine Mgmt - AUS
65
03-28-17 03:30 PM
msilvia
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
28
04-14-16 12:58 PM



Quick Reply: Stock 85 SE - 4 port or 6 port?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:09 PM.