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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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Alright, this latest problem has really started pissing me off. My starter keeps making the noise that you get whenever your car is already running and you accidently turn the key.

It does it sporadically, sometimes it wont, sometimes it will, sometimes it will do it about 5 times and then it start fine.

Im running a brand new champion starter, that worked fine on my other fb before I put it on my current fb.

I have tried relocating the ground, from the short bolt that screws right into the bellhousing, to the long bolt that slides through the bellhousing.

I have tried both plugging in and unplugging the little wire that comes off the starter.

The battery is a magnacharge, and the battery cables are all pretty much brand new welding cable.

I have run out of options, any help is greatly appreciated.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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If the alignment is correct, the bolts are tight,there are no bad teeth on the flywheel,there is proper voltage to the starter, then the starter is failing!
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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Ahh ok thanks. Good thing I still have a warranty on it, damn champion starters. Will take it off, inspect the teeth, and get the starter tested and report.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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Did you ever figure this thing out? I think I have the same problem.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 11:27 PM
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i as well have this prob happened with brand spankin new starter flywheel has all teeth so any ideas
all connections r good and tight and starter is alligned properly
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 12:46 AM
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+1 on this

I have the same issue with a one week old starter. doesn't happen much now, just every so often, but the damned thing is fresh outa the box! I just figured it must be an RX-7 "typical issue". But if there is an explanation I'd love to hear it.
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Yeah I got mine all figured out. Apparently its pretty common with the starters on FB's.

The first thing you want to do is make sure your ground is very clean!! I sanded mine down on both the end of the wire and where it connects on the block, then used brake and parts cleaner to be sure it was clean.

The next thing that is a commom problem is over torqueing the positive nut on the solenoid stud.

If you dont both hold the rear nut behind the positive wire and the front nut with the lock washer on it, the solenoid stud will start to get pulled out of the solenoid, thus breaking the solder inside the solenoid that connects to the stud.

This is what happened in my case, and you could tell it was loose by wiggling the stud, it will often result in an intermediate problem, and the starter may still test good if you take it to a parts store to get tested.

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1. If your cables are still in good shape, be sure that your ground connection to the engine is clean

2. Make sure to use a fresh lockwasher when tightening down the positive conection on the solenoid stud and hold both the back nut and front nut on the solenoid stud. Only tighten down so that the lock washer just barely collapses. This will eliminate any chance of pulling out the stud
and wrecking your starter.

What I would do in your guys case is take off the starter, and make sure the positive solenoid stud isnt loose. If it is, replace the starter because your problem will continue to persist. If it seems alright, follow steps 1 and 2 above.
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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i have been running a beck arnley starter and it does awesome.. funny story b4 i replace my last one it outlasted the flywheel. i wound up replacein it just bc it was getting OLD
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